Another lithium thread

[quote=OLD HOUSEBOATER;29867]Hmmm

To clairify things for a dummy this is what I’m hearing.

You can use a bunch of cells as long as you don’t charge them to a voltage under the High Voltage trip point of the controller.

More cells are better as far as range is concerned

LI cells aren’t damaged by under charging. Just the opposite of Flooded cells

Charger tecnology is good enough to accurately charge to the set point every time.

NEV requirements are so basic that BMS technology is only required by anal gadget freaks.

Rodney[/quote]

Rodney,
your right on . it is this easy . Dave and I are pushing the limits for fun . but if what u are looking for is long life , better performance , easy install . close to factory reliability . CHEAP costs , this is easy to do .

I can send what you need.

Don’t want to see you chop up your wiring if it doesn’t work out.

How handy are you at re-pinning your 23p plug?

There are three wires to remove. I can show you how.
Push in three new ones that I have terminated.

Here is a picture of wires and an empty 23p plug.
It looks intimidating, but three of the wires just go thru my device.
If it doesn’t work for you, just push them back in.

This same wiring allows monitor function in sentry sw. 2fer!

OMG lead is heavy.

4 front ones out. Time to rest.

…396 lbs wow…

Mike reminded me that I still have to mount batteries.

I’m more electrically inclined. Haven’t given it any thought.
Won’t fit between the frame without splitting a 24 pack.

While charging, took the rear off and starting to build a ss battery mount.
As build I mean find something in the junk pile. :smiley:
I see the $12 price sticker on it yet.:smiley:

Pack should slide into channel from the rear.

Last picture:

Leave it off center of another 1/2 hr of fab work?

The gem rear seat pillar is offset. :frowning:

Not going to work?
The best laid plans…
Cell terminals to close to the top aluminum member, supporting rear seat.:frowning:

Do what I should have done right away. Split into discrete 44 and 22 volt packs.

First test ride without lead. Even with controller turned down, hits limit in a few seconds.

No issues at 95 volts.
Next up. Split the packs on get them bolted in.

First impression.
Worth it no matter what the cost.
If it cost $5k for a lithium system, count me in.

Ss hose clamps holds together for bolting.

Dave, I’m glad your happy ! I like the split setup .

You sure popped my balloon.:smiley:

Planning for months. Never once thought space would be an issue.:confused:

One on each side outside the frame.

Even after cutting twice my ss channels will still work.

Only a 1/2 pack shown.
Lighter for fitting.

U used aluminum channel ? I used duct tape . U win .

Pine works good and doesn’t rust.

Ss channel and feet cut from 1.5" X 1.5" X 1/4" angle.

Ss tech screws thru feet into ss and front ones hit cross member.

That’s why it took all day.

Notice the battery I’m running on. On the floor.

Neither does duct tape .

72 volt chevy volt packs.

A warning to anyone buying a 12s 72v pack from Ebay, Hybrid Auto, or anywhere.

You will be disappointed if used in Gem.

As soon as discharge to 3.8 volts per cell, car will fail to restart show error -15 and you will be stranded. :wink:

I may be able to come up with a fix, but have not researched it.

It wont reset if you flip the key off and on?

I don’t think so.
This is the low voltage error that won’t allow starting if battery is below 68.3 volts.

Limit is 60 volts while motoring. But if you stop below 68.3, it won’t restart.

And I don’t think lithium will “come back” by sitting a while.

[quote=Inwo;29918]I don’t think so.
This is the low voltage error that won’t allow starting if battery is below 68.3 volts.

Limit is 60 volts while motoring. But if you stop below 68.3, it won’t restart.

And I don’t think lithium will “come back” by sitting a while.[/quote]

correct and correct

you need 20 cells to make the lithium pack the correct voltage . its just like your gel batteries , we call them 12v but they are almost 13v charged . our gel packs are 78v charged .

Was just wondering how many bought the 72 volt packs for Gems.

66 volt nominal.

I almost did.

First real test with lead out and packs mounted.

Goes up my 19mph hill 26 at 1/4 throttle.
Hits limit in seconds.
Leaving amps at 155 from 255.

Charged to 4v/s =96 volts.
Down to 94 right away. High volts should not be an issue.

Set my trip odom. See how far I go on a low level charge.