My Personal Zoe Review

Update #6

Last week I managed to get a photo of the “ZE Serviced not available in this country” screen on the R-Link (mentioned in Update #5 above). I dutifully sent the photo to my dealer and he sent it direct to the ZE Service desk. Today I received the following response:

“I understand that the customer is encountering the message “ZE Services are not supported in this country”. I can inform that this is a normal message to receive when you are using the R-Link system in the UK. It happens when you try and make use of the Z.E. Services listed under Navigation Services. This option informs for each charging station, if there are any plugs available or, if they are already being used. The feature is only currently available in Portugal and Italy where there are companies operating that provide this type of information.

All the available charge points in the UK are available to find via the POI (Points of Interest) menu and we ask that for the moment you find them this way. I am enclosing a link below to the R-Link e-guide where you can read about POIs:
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It seems a little odd that a service which is available in only two countries in the EU (Portugal and Italy), has an impact for users in all other countries. Although I have read of the issue on several other electric car forums, this is the first time I have read or heard of this explanation for the problem.

I am sure a good programmer could suppress the message for cars located in those countries that do not have the necessary infrastructure in place to utilise the reporting service. To me it seems like an obvious thing to do, but I guess that is because I am a “simple sailor” and I like to have an easy life if at all possible!

That issue aside, we have now driven 1000 miles in the car with no serious issues. There has been a rather annoying niggle emerge and a slightly worrying issue that we will have to keep our eyes on.

Like a lot of Renaults, the Dynamique version of the Zoe comes with ‘keyless’ entry and starting. On some occasions recently when approaching the car it has not sensed the “key” and so will not open the doors without me taking the key out of my pocket and pressing the button on it. This is rather frustrating when you have your hands full and are expecting the system to work like the Megane did that I had previously (almost faultlessly). Because I am aware of the potential for other electronics or metal shielding to interfere with the signal of the ‘keyless’ system, I make sure there is no mobile phone or other potential source of interference near the key (which I keep in my wallet), so the issue is not due to those sort of problems.

More worryingly, on a couple of occasions we have also found the car has not locked itself when we have left it, so now we have to actively check that it has beeped and locked every time we leave it, which is something we never had to do with the Megane. I am hoping Renault will have an answer to that issue in the next week or so.

Despite the comments above, we love using the car every day and are looking forward to the coming weekend when we are off to the Bridgwater Carnival for our first long trip in the car (320 miles round trip). I will report back next week how we get on.

Cheers!

This is all very interesting and shows that while the Renault Zoe seems to beat expectations on the driving front there are still some technical issues? It will be interesting to see how long it takes Renault to sort these little niggles. I look forward to your next update :slight_smile:

Update #7

[U]339 Mile Round Trip to Somerset[/U]

Over the weekend, we did our first longer trip in the Zoe. The story has many positives, but sadly also a couple of negatives. Both the negatives were down to charging issues.

We left Penzance Saturday morning after breakfast heading up the A30 toward Exeter. We stopped at the Cornwall Services at Victoria (near Bodmin) for a comfort break, a cup of coffee and charge up at the Ecotricity rapid charger. 25 minutes later we were back on the road with a 98% charge and all was good in the world (except the weather which was absolutely atrocious).

As Zap Map was reporting that both Ecotricity pumps at the Exeter Services were not working, I decided to stop near Okehampton at the Whitehouse Services and use the SSE pump located there to top up the battery so we could get to Taunton. This was where things started to go pear-shaped.

I offered the machine my SSE RFID card and it said the transaction needed to be authorised. So got back in the car to get out of the sheeting rain and howling wind (why is it always bad weather when things go wrong?) and phoned the help desk number. The chap at the other end found my account on his computer and said that it was in deficit, so needed to be topped up. I explained that £20 had been put on when I ordered the card a few weeks ago, but he said that cost was a fee for the card, and not credit for using a pump. “Bloody fantastic” says I, OK, I have my debit card here so can I give you the details to credit my account?" “No, sorry, that is all done by a different company which does not work at the weekends, but you can put it on using a smart phone”. Lesson #1 - Should have read the small print and maybe I would have realised the £20 was an admin fee and not credit.

So, after getting the details of what to do from the apologetic bloke at the other end of the phone, I signed off and tried to use the app to load my account with some credit. Guess what…yup, it wouldn’t work, so I phoned the help desk again to ask what my options were. He spent five or six minutes trying to remotely get the machine to put some charge into the car so I could continue the journey, but it refused every attempt. There was nothing else he could do to assist so I was left with either travelling slowly to Exeter to check if the Services pumps were working or not, or head back towards home and pick up a charge on a slow charger at the Lifton Arms on the Cornwall/Devon border.

I decided to continue on and head for Exeter Services and check out the pumps there. On arriving with 16 miles range left, one pump was being used by a Mitsubishi on the DC side, but the other charger was definitely not working at all, AC or DC. When the other car finished which was only 10 minutes or so, I thought “great, now I can get charged up”. But no, the pump refused to connect to the car and start the charging, so the fault appeared to have been on the AC side only on that particular charger. I phoned the phone number on the Ecotricity pump, only to get a answerphone message that helpfully informed me that the desk was only open Monday to Friday during usual office hours. Wonderful, what next?

With the rain hissing down in torrents I had to make a decision on where I would go next to try to get a charge. The pump at Cullompton Services was reporting a fault, but the one at Tiverton Services was reporting it was working normally. As Tiverton was 16 miles ahead I reckoned I could just about get there if I kept my speed down so headed back onto the M5.

However, as we traveled up the motorway, the range started to decrease at a rather worrying rate, so rather than run out of power on the motorway itself, I decided I would go the services at Cullompton and check the charger and ring Renault for a recovery if necessary. That was my first experience of really bad range anxiety.

I pulled up at the Ecotricity charger at Collumpton with 6 miles range left, and the screen on the machine seemed to be ok, so connected the car and crossed my fingers. Yee Ha…it worked and the charging started… thank you God! Lesson #2, don’t believe the reported faults if you are running short of power, check the pumps first.

The batteries charged to 99% in 35 - 40 minutes while we had a sandwich and drink and then we headed on our way to the Travelodge at Illminster, arriving about 14:00, weary from the anxiety, but also exhilarated that we had arrived OK. Even the rain had stopped and the sun had come out, so we were hopeful everything was now on the up.

We checked into the hotel and then after a change of clothes, we headed towards Bridgwater ready for the carnival. I decided that as we had plenty of time in hand, it would be a good idea to fully charge the batteries again at Bridgwater Services, before going to the park and ride carpark, so that we would be nearly full when leaving for home after breakfast the next day. We charged up in a short time and then drove about half a mile to the park and ride carpark

The attendants at the park and ride were very interested in the Zoe, and could not believe we had traveled from Penzance to Bridgwater in an electric car. We did explain the journey had not all been plain sailing by any means!

The carnival was fabulous, and anyone reading this who has not been before, I would encourage you to go if the opportunity presents itself. There were 145 floats, many of them three units long, the standard of each exhibit was outstanding, and the bigger floats must take many months to build. The parade took well over two hours to pass our point and we were relieved we had bought grandstand seats at £14 each, because we had a fantastic view, and a (relatively) comfortable seat each. We both agreed though, that when we go next time a cushion to sit on and ear plugs to cut down on the loud music would be a jolly good idea.

We arrived back at the hotel about 12:30 and had a good nights sleep.

After the travel difficulties of the day before, I was a little apprehensive of what would transpire on the way home when we set off after a hearty breakfast the next morning.

SWMBO had said she wanted to do some shopping in Exeter on the way back, so we headed up the A303/A30 towards Honiton and then on to Exeter where parked in the John Lewis car park where there is a Pod Point charger. We connected up and charged while we shopped for Xmas presents for the extended family and friends.

When we got back to the car, a BMW i3 had just pulled up. As only the connection I was using on the charging point was in working order, we disconnected and swapped places while having a chat about the trials, tribulations and benefits of owning an EV. The owner of the i3 had not done any lengthy trips, so was interested in our experiences.

Leaving Exeter at 16:15, we headed straight down the A30 to Cornwall Services at Bodmin again and connected up at the Ecotricity Rapid charger for a quick ‘squirt’ to make sure we had enough range, and then travelled home.

The trip back was great, although I did keep the speed down to about 60 for the majority of the way. I floored it after the last charge at Bodmin with 45 miles to go, safe in the knowledge that there was a charger ready and waiting when we arrived home.

We did 339 miles in total over the two days and learned a lot about the finer points of travelling in a Zoe on an extended trip. Would we do it again? Yes of course we would, but hopefully I will be better prepared next time with plenty of credit on various charge-point cards or apps, so some of the problems we had this time would not occur again. As the Zoe is our only vehicle other than pedal cycles, we will just have to get used to the slightly different issues and considerations of travelling outside of Cornwall, than we have hitherto done when owning an ICE vehicle.

Regards all.

What a very very interesting summary of your trip - you seem to have gone through all of the highs and lows people talk about in one venture! I can’t imagine the anxiety you felt thinking that you were going to run out of charge - that must have been a little scary.

I am finding your diary of the ups and downs of owning an EV in the UK great reading and look forward to your next update. At the end of the day a 339 mile round trip in 2 days in an EV is very impressive :slight_smile:

Update #8

Although perhaps a little late, happy New Year one and all.

Well we have now had the Zoe for just over three months. Since our trip to Bridgwater in November, we have used the car every day travelling the length and breadth of Cornwall (no we haven’t gone over the border to foreign parts again i.e. Devon or further north).

Other than having to plan a little more carefully when travelling on trips further than 60 to 70 miles, owning the car is little different to owning the average supermini…except of course you do not have to go to the garage to fuel up!

The owning experience has now become so “normal” for us, I do not envisage us going back to an ICE car again. The Zoe has been reliable, comfortable, quiet and a joy to drive around town.

A Zoe will not be for everyone. Anyone who has a heavy right foot on the throttle, will not get on very well with an EV, simply because their range will suffer badly. I guess they may be ok with a Tesla with its greater range, but then who wouldn’t be? However, they would need to have a spare £56k lying around to buy it…ouch!

As the last three months have been so uneventful, I have nothing else to add to this update, so for now I am signing off.

Regards all.