Donald Trump - love him or loathe him?

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Donald John Trump, was born June 14, 1946. He will be 70 years old on election day. Donald Trump was born the fourth of five children who were born over eleven years. The oldest, Mary Ann, was born in 1937 and is currently a Federal Judge. His older brother, Fred Jr, died in early adulthood as a result of complications from alcoholism. He has another older sister, Elizabeth and a younger brother, Robert. Donald Trump has been married three times.

Trump’s first wife, Ivana, was an immigrant from Czechoslovakia and a divorcee who has been married 4 times in her life. She is a lifelong avid skier and worked in design at the Trump Organization. Marla Maples, Trump’s second wife is an actress and model. Trump’s third wife, Melania is an immigrant from Slovenia (born in Yugoslavia) and has been a super model.

Two of Trump’s children, Donald Jr and Ivanka, have gone to Penn. Son Eric, went to Georgetown. Donald Trump tells us that he is Presbyterian. Donald Trump’s oldest daughter, Ivanka, and her three children are Jewish. Trump’s oldest daughter, Ivanka, is married to Jared Kushner who is, among other things, a newspaper publisher. The Kushner family is very successful in New York City area.

Donald’s grandmother, mother, first wife, and third wife are all immigrants.
Donald Trump was born and raised in Queens NY. Though his family was very wealthy, Trump’s boyhood home in the Jamaica Estates section of Queens was not a grand mansion. The Trump home was a larger version of the homes Fred Trump was building for his tenants. There are no indications that the Trump family lived among the wealthy elites on vacations or country clubs. Queens is the largest of New York’s five boroughs and the most ethnically diverse. Trump attended a local private day school, the Kew Forrest School, in Queens until about 8th grade. His secondary schooling was at New York Military Academy which is about 60 miles north of NYC in Cornwall on the Hudson. He was in the class of 1964.

Trump was a very good high school athlete - football, soccer, and especially baseball. He had potential to become a professional baseball player. Even in high school - Trump liked women and women liked him Trump was generally popular in high school. Trump’s boarding school room mate liked him. He attended Fordham University in NYC for two years and transferred to the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School of Business. At that time, the Wharton School offered a rare program for Real Estate Business.

Though he was of age, Donald Trump did not serve in Vietnam. He was not drafted due to bone spurs in his heels (4F) and also student deferments. Ultimately, in the draft lottery, he drew a high number. By all we know, Donald Trump does not smoke, drink or use recreational drugs. He’ll be the first President in more than 25 years who hasn’t smoked weed. BTW: Trump’s children don’t smoke or drink.Trump makes it well known that he enjoys sexual interaction with women. His doctor publicly announced Donald to be in excellent health.

I think that to really know Donald Trump, you must know his family background. The Trump family story is a very American story. Donald Trump’s grandparents immigrated to the U.S. from Alsace (Kallstadt, Germany) which throughout history has been alternately French and German. The Trumps are German, originally speaking the same German dialect as the Amish of Lancaster County, PA. His maternal grandparents lived in Scotland. Freiderich (Drumph) Trump made a small but respectable fortune in the late 19th Century in the mining boom towns of the American Northwest. He returned to Germany to marry his childhood neighbor, Elizabeth Christ. The newly married Trumps resettled in the Borough of Queens NY. Freidrich was establishing a Real Estate business in Queens when he died suddenly at age 49 (1918). In 1920, at the age of 15, Fred Trump (Freiderich’s son and Donald’s father), started a business partnership with his widowed mother called Elizabeth Trump & Son. This business was built upon the real estate holdings that his father, Frederich, amassed (worth about $500,000.00 in today’s dollars). This is the original “seed money” of the current Trump Organization. Elizabeth & Fred remained close business partners (she died in 1966). In 1936 Fred Trump (age 31) married Mary Ann MacLeod (age 24) of Stoneaway Scotland.

During the depression, Fred Trump built and successfully operated a supermarket (a new concept at the time) which was sold to King Kullen Co. and operates this day. Fred Trump made a lot of money building housing for the military during WWII. All (or nearly all) of the building of Elizabeth Trump & Son’s non-government building was residential property in Queens. Fred Trump died in 1999 (age 94) - beloved and worth between $250/$300 million. His wife died a year later.

“The Donald’s” career

Donald Trump is the greatest career achiever of the “baby boomer” generation. Donald Trump has reached the zenith in his careers as book author, TV entertainer, sports entertainer, Real Estate developer, and currently politician. Donald Trump has authored more than 18 books. At least one of them, The Art of the Deal was a top seller. Donald says that the Holy Bible is his favorite book. The Art of the Deal is his 2nd favorite book. And The Power of Positive Thinking by Norman Vincent Peale is his third favorite book.

He likes golf. Donald Trump has developed more than 11 golf courses which bear his name. Donald Trump has twice been nominated for an Emmy Award. Donald Trump has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Donald Trump has been inducted to the Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame. Donald Trump has appeared in more than a dozen movies such as Home Alone 2, Zoolander, and Little Rascals. Donald Trump has been a guest actor in more than 6 TV shows such as Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Days of Our Lives, Sex and the City, and others. Trump has been the Executive Producer of 7 TV shows. Trump has been the guest host of 5 TV shows such as Extra, Larry King Live, and Saturday Night Live and more. Donald Trump has been co-producer of the longest running reality TV show.
Donald Trump performed in several WWE wrestling shows. Donald performed in Wrestlemania 23 which set attendance revenue records up til that time.

In his first candidacy for public office, Donald Trump received the most popular votes for the President of the United States out of a field of experienced and successful politicians. And in most cases, he achieved this with less money than any of his opponents. Keeping in mind that 90% of start up businesses fail, Trump’s record of enterprise is nothing short of amazing.

Donald Trump has enjoyed success in at least 11 very different enterprises: Professional football, Ice Skating rinks, Fragrance, Ice, Steaks, Wines, Model management, Airline, blenders, Men’s wear, Bicycle races, world class beauty contests, and many others. In some of these, such as model management, his firm has risen to the top of that particular industry.

There are 31 buildings that bear his name. The largest private real estate development in New York is Trump Riverside. Drive down the Henry Hudson Blvd. - you can’t miss them. There are at least 12 Trump Towers. There are at least 6 Trump Plazas.There are at least 11 Trump Golf Course developments. And much, much, more in real estate. Trump Entertainment, casinos and resorts was recently sold to Carl Ichan. Donald Trump’s personal managing of the Wollman Ice Skating Rink project in the early 1980’s is the quintessential case study for MBA students in Wharton, Harvard, and other business schools. His performance there was phenomenal. Donald Trump’s privately held businesses have employed more than 200,000 people. In the casino business in Atlantic City, Trump had to do business with known mobsters - and he stayed “clean” and alive. Aside from his personal investments, Donald Trump has never been a Wall Street “player”.

The Political Trump:
About 1967 - 1987 - Democrat (he was a supporter of Ronald Reagan).
1987 - 1999 - Republican
1999 - 2001 - Reform Party (he supported Ross Perot)
2001 - 2009 - Democrat
2009 - 2011 - Republican
2011 - 2012 - Independent
2012 - Present - Republican
Donald Trump was openly supportive of Mitt Romney’s candidacy.
Donald Trump does not seem to hold political party organizations in high regard.
For the most part, his political involvement has been for practical business reasons.
Donald Trump does not appear to be held to political ideology.

Some of my take aways:
Trump has an extraordinarily energetic central nervous system much like Teddy Roosevelt but more targeted to industry and enterprise.
Trump’s presidency will be very energetic, transparent, and communicative.
Trump will be a very hard working President.
His interaction with his older brother (who everybody loved) tells me that he thinks that everybody is like him - or wants to be - or should be.
His relationship with his older brother was a hard lesson in tolerance for him.
Trump is the Babe Ruth of career achievements.
He is dumb like a fox. When you think he just said something stupid - he didn’t. It’s just that you were not his target audience.
Trump knows the people - the folk.
His son, Donald Jr. is right. Trump is a “Blue Collar Billionaire”.
More than anything, his TV show, The Apprentice, was his passion. He wants all Americans to have confidence (like he does) to venture.
Donald Trump is attracted to and marries smart, high achieving women.
The highest levels of a Trump Administration is certain to have many women - and they will be bright and assertive.
Donald Trump’s children are very important to him. And it shows.

PS. Yes, we know nothing of our current president with 2 terms in office. WTF!

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Looking from the UK the media always portrays Donald Trump as a troublemaker and racist. What is the general impression from those living in the USA?

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Mr Trump is a super successful American Ass hole. He is being supported by the Americans that are paying the bills and are fed up with the situation the country is in. “We are mad as hell and aren’t going to take it any more.”

Ignoring his ability to lead and possibly get this country back in the black would be a mistake to me and a lot of other people… It would be nice to have a personable candidate with his abilities, but we don’t.

Hillary would continue the current status and we would continue our Country’s downward spiral.

So for this go round , he’s our “Favorite Ass Hole” and we need to support him to try to mend the country.

GO DONALD !!!

What say you?

Rodney

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I’m sure that there my a be a few exceptions… But, It seems to be, that most of the negative comments about Mr. Trump that I see on TV are from Illegal aliens, Black Lives Matter, Gay folks, Bernie’s gang, Democrats and people that live in Miami. Miami is in the only county in Florida that did not vote for Mr. Trump in the primary.

My point? I’m in very good company with the silent majority of people that don’t fit in with the above mentioned crowd. After Mr. Trump is elected we will see some long over due and welcomed change in this country… :smiley:

When half of the people get the
idea that they do not have to work, because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work, because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the
beginning of the end of any nation!

As always… IMHO.

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Screw them… Its their to bend over the barrel… :usa2:

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From the time I was able to vote, I voted Republican. I am now 75 years old.
Recently I received a questionnaire and request for money and strongly agree with every question, as I have since Obama was elected. Unfortunately the one question that was missing is: What have the Republicans done for the American people?

 We gave you a majority in the house and senate, and you never listened to us.

Now you want our money, my money, more money. You should be more concerned about our votes, not our money. You are the establishment which means all you want is to save your jobs and line your pockets.

Well guess what? It's not going to happen. TRUMP hasn't asked for a dime.

You might think we are fools because you feel Trump is on a self-destruct course, but look beyond Washington and listen to the masses. Nobody has achieved what he has, especially in the state of New York.

Here's why I want Trump. Yes, he's a bit of an ass; yes, he's an egomaniac; but I don't care. The country is a mess because politicians think they know what best for us.

The Republican Party is two-faced and gutless, and illegals are everywhere. I want it all fixed!

  I don't care that Trump is crude.
  I don't care that he insults people.
  I don't care that he has changed positions.
  I don't care that he's been married 3 times.
  I don't care that he fights with Megan Kelly and Rosie O’Donnell.
  I don't care that he doesn't know the name of some Muslin  terrorist.

 Our country has become weak, bankrupt. Our enemies are making fun of us. We are being invaded by illegals. We are becoming a nation of victims where every Tom, Ricardo and Hassid is a special group with special rights to a point where we don't even recognize the country we were born and raised in, "I JUST WANT IT FIXED." And Trump is the only guy who seems to understand what we the people want.

  I'm sick of politicians, sick of the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, and sick of illegals. I just want this thing fixed. Trump may not be a saint, but he doesn't have lobbyist money controlling him; he doesn't have political correctness restraining him; all you know is that he has been very successful; a good negotiator; he has built a lot of things; and, he's also not a politician. And, he says he'll fix it. And, I believe him because he is too much of an egotist to be proven  wrong or looked at and called a liar.
 
I don't care if the guy has bad hair.  I just want those raccoons gone. NOW!

You are welcome to pass this on, or not. I really don’t give a poop.

  Thought for the Day... "No country can sustain, in idleness, more than a small percentage of its numbers. The great majority must labor at something productive!"

P.S. No Borders, No Language, No Culture = No Country.

Jerry… As Always, IMHO.

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Jerry

I’m 76 and you got it right:D

Rodney

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I see Donald Trump is visiting Scotland at the moment - by all accounts he will receive a hot reception. However, isnt it funny how people turn a blind eye to things they dont agree with when someone is investing money in their area. When the tide turns and Donald Trump is seen as the devil they all turn against him. Strange that eh?

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As the election gets closer and people come to their senses they will realize that Trump is not serious about running the country. But some people will still vote for him out of spite for the establishment.

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Yep!.. Millions of us.

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Go Donald Go.

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[B]I chose other women over Hillary…You should too. Bill Clinton[B]

I chose other women over Hillary You should too

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So why doe’s he keep going back to the sweet old thing?

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I don’t think that he’s going back to her for that… He gets that elsewhere from younger better looking stock and she’s just as happy that he gets it elsewhere. “Just please keep it out of the news papers and TV”… says Hillary.

I believe that they both want to keep the marriage together only for political reasons and the Clinton trust $$$$ fund contributors.

I have a retired secret service agent life long friend down the road in Naples. He has friends on the Hillary security detail. His claim, nothing is going on in the bedroom between these two. Any hugging that you see on TV, is for the cameras only… I believe him.

As always… IMHO

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New member here but glad to see a forum in which politics can seemingly be discussed with civility.

ATLjunk,

your sentiments, as posted above, were pretty common among the Main Stream Media folks and those of the liberal persuasion.

I’d be curious as to your thoughts and impressions now that it is only a few days before we all go to the polls?

Dino

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Were in a situation where both candidates are undesirables. Every body’s mad. What do we do? DON’T THROW YOUR VOTE AWAY. In a situation like this you don’t vote the person you vote the party. Remember The President can ask, suggest, make all kinds of statements , but it’s Congress, in the end, that passes or fails Legislation.
If you like the present policy of deficit spending and increasing debt vote Democratic… If you favor a change toward fiscal responsibility vote Republican.

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THE ROWBOAT COMES FOR YOU…

This may be the best and most important message you will ever read. It decidedly does not brush objections aside.

You hate Hillary? READ it. You hate Trump? READ it. You think there’s no choice? READ it. And, read it with your grown-up hat on.
We’ve all been dealt huge responsibility with this election. The first step toward accepting responsibility is accepting it, and the first step toward accepting it is recognizing it.

READ THIS. Read every single word. It’ll take you about three minutes.
Be sure to read to the end (take a few minutes and read all of it!)

Are you sickened and despondent with the current campaign and upcoming presidential election?
I consider myself a conservative and do truly believe our country is at a political/economic/moral/ social crossroads. I need to let you know I could/would never vote for Hillary Clinton to lead this country.
To me, she represents everything that is wrong with our current political structure. On the flip side, I look and listen to Donald Trump and I cringe at every rude, insulting comment he makes.

If you find yourself in a similar state of mind, please read the following article:

A Message For Christians About Donald Trump

Here’s a famous joke about God and how he talks to us.

"A deeply faithful Christian man is stuck on roof at home with massive flooding up to the 2nd floor. Rowboat comes. He says “No, I’m waiting for God. I prayed and I know he’s coming.” 2nd Rowboat. “No, I’m waiting for God.” 3rd Rowboat. “No, I’m waiting for God.”

Water rises. The man drowns. Now he’s meeting God in heaven. The religious man says, “Where were you God? I prayed. I was faithful. I asked you to save me. Why would you abandon me?”

God says, “Hey, I sent you 3 rowboats.”
(Did you ever consider Trump is our rowboat?)

Maybe God is trying to tell us something important–that now is not the time for a “nice Christian guy” or a “gentleman” or a typical Republican powder puff. Maybe now is the time for a natural born killer, a ruthless fighter, a warrior. Because right about now we need a miracle, or America is finished. Maybe the rules of gentlemen don’t apply here. Maybe a gentleman and “all-around nice Christian” would lead us to slaughter.

Or do you want another Mitt Romney, Bob Dole, John McCain, Gerald Ford or Paul Ryan? Did any of them win? Did they lead the GOP to “the promised land?” Did they change the direction of America? No, because if you don’t win, you have no say.

Paul Ryan couldn’t even deliver his own state, Wisconsin! And as leader of the House, Paul Ryan rolls over to Obama like my dog rolls over for a scrap of food, or a steak bone. Nice, but obedient. I mean Paul Ryan…not my dog. My dog is actually a pretty good defender and loyal.

Maybe God is knocking on your door loudly, but you’re not listening. Maybe God understands we need a “war leader” at this moment in time. Maybe God understands if we don’t win this election, America is dead. It’s over. The greatest nation in world history will be gone. Finished. Kaput. Adios.

And with one last breath, maybe what we need to save us at the last second, is someone different. Someone you haven’t ever experienced before-- because you weren’t raised in rough and tumble New York where nothing good gets accomplished unless you’re combative, aggressive, outrageous, on offense at all times, and maybe just a tad arrogant too.

Someone with a personality you’ve never seen on stage at your church. Maybe, just maybe, being a nice gentlemanly Christian would not beat Hillary and her billion dollars, and her best friends in the media who will unleash the dogs of hell upon the GOP nominee.

I guess you think God is only nice and gentlemanly. Really? Then you’ve missed the whole point of the Bible. When necessary, God is pretty tough. When necessary, God strikes with pain, death and destruction. When necessary, God inflicts vengeance.
Maybe you think God couldn’t possibly be associated with someone like Trump. Trump is too vicious, rude and crude.
When we won WWII, was God “nice?” Were we gentlemanly when defeating Hitler? Were we gentlemanly when firebombing Germany? Were we gentlemanly when dropping atomic bombs on Japan? Is God ever “nice” on the battlefield? Or does he send us vicious SOB’s like General George S. Patton so the good guys can defeat evil?
It’s pretty clear to me God sends unique people to be “war leaders.” That’s a different role than a pastor or church leader. God understands that.
And maybe it’s time to re-define “nice.” Maybe Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan aren’t nice at all–because they led us to defeat. And losing again would mean the end of America. And God can’t allow that. Maybe Romney and Ryan mean well, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Or maybe they’re just jealous they had their chance and blew it. Maybe they’d rather help elect Hillary than allow a Trump victory that would make them look weak, feckless and incompetent.

“Even the youths shall faint and be weary, And the young men shall utterly fall, But those who wait on the Lord shall renew their strength; They shall mount up with wings like eagles, They shall run and not be weary, They shall walk and not faint.” (Isiah 40:30-31)

God is about miracles. We don’t need a “nice guy” or a “gentleman” right now. It’s the 4th quarter and we’re losing 14-0. We need a miracle.

So let me repeat my message to Christians: “YOU’RE MISSING THE BOAT.”

I believe Trump is our miracle. I believe Trump is our rowboat. Except he’s more like a battleship!

No one is saying Trump is perfect. No one is saying Trump is a perfect conservative. But he is a patriot. He is a warrior. He is a capitalist. He is the right man, at the right time. Yes, he’s a bit rude and crude and offensive. But that may make him the perfect warrior to save America, American exceptionalism, capitalism and Judeo-Christian values. The choice should be easy for Christians. It’s Trump…or maybe t’s the end of the American dream.

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NO MORE USA?
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We are so asleep and in need of an awakening. Some of these things on the list are NOT “all of a sudden,” but have been going on several years already. Some would have been unbelievable a few years ago. WHY?

Does anyone not remember what and how things happened in Germany? WHY?

Think, all of this in less than 8 years. WHY?

Before Obama there was virtually no presence of Islam in America. WHY?

• All of a sudden, Islam is taught in schools. Christianity and the bible are banned in schools. WHY?

• All of a sudden we must allow prayer rugs everywhere and allow for Islamic prayer in schools, airports and businesses. WHY?

• All of a sudden we must stop serving pork in prisons. WHY?

• All of a sudden we are inundated with law suits by Muslims who are offended by American culture. WHY?

• All of a sudden we must allow burkas to be worn everywhere even though you have no idea who or what is covered up under them. WHY?

• All of a sudden Muslims are suing employers and refusing to do their jobs if they personally deem it conflicts with Sharia Law. WHY?

• All of a sudden the Attorney General of the United States vows to prosecute anyone who engages in “anti-Muslim speech.” WHY?

• All of a sudden, Jihadists who engage in terrorism and openly admit they acted in the name of Islam and ISIS, are emphatically declared they are NOT Islamic by our leaders and/or their actions are determined NOT to be terrorism, but other nebulous terms like 'workplace violence." WHY?
• All of a sudden, it becomes Policy that Secular Middle East dictators that were benign or friendly to the West, must be replaced by Islamists and the Muslim Brotherhood. WHY?

• All of a sudden our troops are withdrawn from Iraq and the middle east, giving rise to ISIS. WHY?

• All of a sudden, America has reduced its nuclear stockpiles to 1950 levels, as Obama’s stated goal of a nuke-free America by the time he leaves office continues uninterrupted. WHY?

• All of a sudden, a deal with Iran must be made at any cost, with a pathway to nuclear weapons and BILLIONS of dollars handed over to them. WHY?

• All of a sudden America APOLOGIZES to Muslim states and sponsors of terror worldwide for acts of aggression, war and sabotage THEY perpetrate against our soldiers. WHY?

• All of a sudden, the American Navy is diminished to 1917 Pre-World War I levels of only 300 ships. The Army is at pre-1940 levels. The Air Force scraps 500 planes and planned to retire the use of the A-10 Thunderbolt close air support fighter. A further draw down of another 40,000 military personnel is in progress. WHY?

• All of a sudden Obama has to empty Guantanamo Bay of captured Jihadists and let them loose in Jihad-friendly Islamic states. He demands to close the facility. WHY?

• All of a sudden America will negotiate with terrorists and trade FIVE Taliban commanders for a deserter and Jihad sympathizer. WHY?

• All of a sudden there is no money for American poor, disabled veterans, jobless Americans, hungry Americans, or displaced Americans, BUT there is endless money for Obama’s “Syrian refugee” resettlement programs. WHY?

• All of sudden there is an ammunition shortage in the USA. WHY?

• All of a sudden, the most important thing for Obama to do after a mass shooting by two Jihadists, is disarm American Citizens. WHY?

• All of a sudden, the President of the United States cannot attend the Christian Funerals of a Supreme Court Justice and a former First Lady because of previous (seemingly unimportant) commitments. WHY?

• All of a sudden, Obama, the President of the United States, won’t attend the funeral of a flag-rank Officer (Gen. Greene) killed in action; he was playing golf. BUT he sends a big delegation to Michael Brown’s funeral. He sends a minor delegation to Margaret Thatcher’s funeral. He won’t acknowledge Chris Kyle’s murder but he’ll fly the Flag at half mast for Whitney Houston. WHY?

• All of a sudden, I’m sick to my stomach, because the majority of Americans DO NOT recognize the seriousness of the situation and how much “progress” has been made by Islam these last 7 years, a very brief time compared to a 75 year lifetime! WHY?

And, with a President Hillary Clinton, just imagine what it will be like after she appoints Supreme Court Justices (one of which could be Obama). If this happens, we “ain’t” seen “nothing” yet!

If you agree, be strong enough to at least forward this to a few friends.

And… for God sakes lets hope that there are enough Trump supporters hiding in the woods that have not truthfully told the telephone pole’s who they are really voting for! Its not cool to admit that your voting for Trump?

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I just received this from a good friend and want to share with you…
I believe that the basic premise is correct: If you listen to Trump, he is

hitting many of the hot buttons of the electorate. But you have to listen

to him and not be distracted by his showmanship and obnoxious behavior.

I like the list of 13 things that I, as a senior American citizen, want.

Trump is at least talking about issues that most Americans are concerned.
My mantra about Trump is this: Truthfully, We are usually in agreement

with most of what he says but wish someone else was saying it. We are
offended by his brash manner. We are getting older and maybe our tickers

aren’t what they used to be, but what matters is that he covers most of the

13 things we as seniors want – at least I do for sure.

  1. Hillary to be held accountable for her previous wrongs!

  2. Put “GOD” back in America !!!

  3. Borders: Closed or tightly guarded!

  4. Congress: On the same retirement & healthcare plans as everybody else.

  5. Congress: Obey its own laws NOW!

  6. Language: English only!

  7. Culture: Constitution and the Bill of Rights!

  8. Drug Free: Mandatory Drug Screening before & during Welfare!

  9. Freebies: NONE to Non-Citizens!

  10. Budget: Balance the damn thing!

  11. Foreign Countries: Stop giving them our money!

    Charge them for our help!

      We need it here--

     especially for Social Security--

            put the cost of food back in

               the Cost-of-Living index!

  12. Fix the TAX CODE!

     And most of all:

  13. “RESPECT OUR MILITARY AND OUR FLAG!!”

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