Check if parking brake switch isn’t faulty. I think You can access from the top dashboard. If not you’ll have to remove the bottom dashboard too (not too hard)
Regarding the Batteries, I think your big problem is getting them shipped, the battery @JarJarJava is building will be a monster.
Not sure about the EM1400 Battery compartment but this pic shows how it looks in an E4
Cells from @Inwo Samsung SDi Made in Korea
Gabriel,
Here’s the eM1400 battery compartment. It’s similar to the e4, maybe a bit larger. I haven’t pulled the 8 AGMs yet. All the cross bracing at the top should unbolt.
@MauiGEM disregard the top dashboard part. I’ve got confused. Still you can track the wiring and double check if the parking switch works properly,
@JarJarJava thanks for the pics. Is there a way to slide the battery from the back?
Not really… The bed is in the way. The fairings are in the way. The controller is in the way…
I might have to build a 2 piece battery just to be able to install it.
Aloha djgabriel,
Thanks for the reply and picture. That looks great. I like the box that you put the battery(s) in.
Some guy on the island is selling four, 5-month-old, Dakota 12 Volt 100Ah Ah 1280Wh Deep Cycle LifeP04 Lithium batteries. Is this an option for my 48-volt system? Have you heard of anyone using the 12 volts 100 Ah 1280Wh Deep Cycle LifeP04 Batteries? He has them listed for $3200. He won’t get that on this island.
Do you think that the 4 Dakota 12 volt Lithium 100 amp batteries would be a good choice? Or would the RoyPow 48 volt 105 amp pack work well with the eM1400?
Thanks for your time. Ron
Aloha jrjava,
I saw one guy take off the plastic side of the battery bank (passenger side) and slide the batteries out that way. It may have been on a Ranger, so I am not sure if the eM1400 will work that way.
Here is the link to that YouTube video: Installing Polaris Ranger Lithium Batteries | Allied Lithium Golf Cart Battery - YouTube
Thanks for posting the pics.
Ron
Maui,
You need to think of those Deltas as not cells like your current batteries, but rather each one is a complete pack. Each one has it’s own management and balancing computer in it. Linking 4 packs together like that in series might not work well. The computers don’t always talk to each other and so one can get out of balance. The other big problem is the max amperage draw could be exceeded
“100 A max continuous, 200 A max pulse 10 second pulse”
That might not be enough amps for the eM as it’s heavy and hungry… Especially loaded down.
The eMs are the only all steel gems ever built. They weigh about as much as an e6 which are 65% longer. They have more cargo weight capacity and tow capacity than any other gem.
I moved 24 50lb bags of concrete a few miles in Emmy a couple weeks ago. Between concrete, me and tools, that was 1500 lbs.
Aside from sinking down about 2" from the load, she didn’t even notice it…
Hi @MauiGEM, as @JarJarJava said, these “drop in” solutions are not really the best Option. Too many things can fail
Aloha jrjava,
Are those 6260s the original batteries? I have the same batteries in my eM. I have a 2016, so do you think that they would last 5 to 6 years?
I just did a load test on the batteries today. I have two batteries that drop down to 5.7 under load and the other 6 batteries drop down to about 6.0.
The entire bank drops down to 48.5 under load. Do you think that my bank has seen better days? They are starting to swell up a little on the sides and they seem to drain pretty quickly. Is it worth trying to replace the two that are low and try to get some more life out of the bank? Or should I just think about going Lithium?
I did replace my tie-rod ends and tried to get the toe-in per specs, but it seems like it started to drain a bit quicker after I tried to adjust the toe-in. I have quite a bit of negative camber on the front wheels. I know that some negative camber is normal, but this seems like a lot. I will send a picture later.
Thanks for your time and your replies. I really appreciate your help.
Ron
Afaik, they are the original batteries .
Bulging is not good .
Jrjava and anyone else,
Has anyone used 4 12 volt Deep Cycle AGMs to replace the 8 6 volt AGMs? I am having a hard time getting the 6 volt AGMs at a decent price on Maui and I don’t want to go backwards to Lead Acid Wet batteries. 4 12 volts would be half as much and way easier to get.
I know that the range will not be as good, but I only drive a kilometer or less most days and a long day would be 3 miles.
I have a solar panel on top with a Charge controller/booster to get a 48 volt trickle charge with 6 hours of great sun most days.
I am rethinking the conversion on my EM1400 LSV from 8 6 volt AGMs = to Lithium. Any thoughts would be most appreciated.
Thanks. MauiGEM
Can’t say I blame you under the difficulty of sourcing lithium batteries. Going to four 12v is possible, but it’s not going to deliver sustained power under load. I haven’t monitored the amp draw yet, I really ought to…
Hopefully in a few days I’ll have my lithium pack in and running in my em1400. I’ll let you know how it works out.
Aloha Derrick,
That sounds great. What type of lithium pack do you have? Did you have to replace the charger and put in an inverter for the 12 volt system?
I look forward to hearing about your final product. Thanks for sharing.
I have the 94 ah sdi batteries (2p14s for now, might try 15s though). The dc converter is rated for a max of 60v so that’s not a concern for 14s, if you went with 15s, you’d have to keep the cell voltage below 4v. I don’t believe anything will have to be done to the charger for 14s as it’s about the same voltage as lead batteries but I haven’t got that far yet. If you wanted to go to higher than 14 batteries, you would most likely have to have the charger reprogrammed, I think a few other members are working on a hack to avoid having to reprogram the charger. From the research I’ve done, I don’t think it’s practical to go above 15s because if you replace the dc converter with the next higher voltage (72v) has minimum voltage of 58 volts, which means you need a 20s pack, which then means you also need a 72v charger and possibly a new controller? I’m not sure what the max voltage is for the 48v controller.
“Ul I 8ish lm8l m u mhmp09” - I think that my granddaughter sent this. I don’t think she understood this either. Sorry for my ignorance on all of this. I may just go with the eight 6 volts and keep it as is for another 3 to 5 years, and hope that a lithium battery producer, or one of you, comes up with a Lithium Conversion Kit for the EM 1400 that is a plug and play drop-in kit that my granddaughter could do.
Oh no. Another brain just went poof!!!
Basically to keep it simple, if you go with the above lithium, do 14 batteries. Just a fyi, 14s means the battery pack has 14 batteries wired in series (positive terminal to negative terminal) to step up the batteries to about 56 volts. 2p means you have 2 sets of batteries in parallel (positive terminal to positive and negative terminal connected to negative) to increase capacity at the same voltage. A 2p14s would mean you have 2 batteries in parallel and 14 of those 2 batteries in series, so this would give you twice the amp hours(capacity) and 14 times the voltage of a single battery. It’s really not that hard to put together but it does take a decent amount of time/work to do. MOST IMPORTANTLY THOUGH YOU MUST HAVE A BMS TO KEEP IT FROM CATCHING ON FIRE.
Thank you for the explanation Derrick. I am starting to understand this a bit more. I also did some research so that I could try to keep up with the posts on here and get a better idea of what I want to do with my eM1400. Thanks for breaking it down for me.
I have a EV 1400 with fault code “F44002” What might this be?
