We do know what 8675309 is though.
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Itās a pedal part number as mentioned in a previous post from Oct 2018ā¦ Obviously we are expected to remember this or spend our time scrolling back ready every post to figure it out. 
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If itās a 2008 type throttle, no longer available.
Thatās why we make a replacement.
Ask Byron for price.
If he doesnāt have one, i can build one for you.
I have some in process. Can prep one to ship Mon if needed.
A few other things taking priority lately.
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2 refurbished ready to ship
email me rodneyadiehl@aol.com
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I know this is a older thread, but Iām stuck on a issue: I need to replace a drive sol p# 050g-e4634. I have a 2008 Morgan Olsen stepvan with only 50k miles. My pedal is bad. I know for sure itās the pedal. I have a 2007 workhorse chassis with a Navistar vt275. 6 cylinder 6.0 pretty much. All suppliers have abandoned me. Im looking for any info. Iām lost and have limited electrical knowledge, but have the skills to fab anything to make a aftermarket pedal work. I noticed you mentioned the drive sol p# 050g-e4634. Whatās your experience with this pedal? Have you successfully replaced it? So far I have DriveSol / Teleflex 050G-E4634 (Original OEM)
Idle APP: ~0.9%
Idle RPM: ~689
WOT APP: ~102%
Faults: None (when signal stable)
Issue: Worn first Ā¼ of resistive track ā instability
Conclusion:
This is the only pedal family the ECM fully accepts.
Near-zero idle. Passive analog dual-track. Correct correlation.
This defines your required voltage envelope.
Williams 131973
Idle APP: ~7%
Idle RPM: 800ā900
Fault at: ~13%
Conclusion:
Preloaded idle too high. ECM rejects immediately.
Williams 131507
Idle APP: ~9.1%
Idle RPM: ~1100
Fault at: ~12%
Conclusion:
Even worse preload. Incorrect scaling for VT275 ECM.
Williams 134030
Idle APP: 0%
Fault at: ~12%
Conclusion:
Idle scaling looked correct, but sweep ratio / channel correlation incorrect for this ECM.
Different failure mode than the 7ā9% idle pedals.
ATP / Navistar 2607117C91
Idle APP: 6.7%
Fault at: ~12%
Thanks in advance for any help you could provide. I canāt imagine junking this truck over a pedal.
Give use a picture. Then volt readings for both throttle tracks.
Idle and wot.
Most will be .5v-4v and 1v-2v. The key being one is always 1/2 of the other.
https://ebay.us/m/lmXSsj mine is this one. I donāt want to pay $1100.00 for a pedal that may last a week or a year. Iām looking for a replacement. Iāll check voltage closed/WOT on both tracks today and get back to you. I see the early GEMs use the same pedal drive sol p# 050g-e4634 just a different pedal arm and mounted upside down,. Polaris at one time had a limited run replacement PN:2010469, to me it looks like a Williams controls setup. If I could get this sensor # to the Williams sales engineer they could give me the proper sensor. If Im able to find a proper replacement Iāll post this on RV forums to help others as dealers and parts suppliers have been reluctant to really help me. I have tried many sensors based on the couple suppliers that have recommend something but none have fit the bill. Iāve cleaned the inside and as of now it worksā¦ At least for testing but I donāt trust it. Hereās a pic of my pedalā¦
You canāt trust AI for everything.
I wouldnāt consider the GE controller as āmodern dayā. The T3/T5 controllers are 20 year old tech.
Throttle pedals from that era (gem car) use 2 inputs.
Track 1 is a switch. Open at pedal up. Closes at initial pedal press.
Track 2 is a variable resistor pad.
Yes, around 2012/13(?) Gem switched to a hall pedal design and a T5 controller, but still using the same pedal inputs.
@Matt018888 -
You are right. I wouldnāt pay $1100 for what should be a $80 part either.
That sure looks very close to what Gem cars were using for a pedal box. Even where the pedal arm rivets to the box.
What does your harness plug look like?
From picture;
NOT a hall type throttle, quite obviously it is a pot type. One track is 1 volt to 3.5 volt when supplied by 4.5v supply.
Track on left is fs1 idle sensor.
As Byron stated is looks identical to 2008 type Gem pedal. We both sell replacement pedals or pot boxes.
Ha ha.. you canāt trust AI for most things..Even in what I posted it changed its mind a few times. I continued the discussion with AI after I posted this and between us there were so many ideas and thoughts about what it might be. I finally said clear your memory and moved on.. ha ha..
I see so much on pedals.. I really never paid much attention since mine is a single pot.. simple is good for me.. But curiosity about this one for me is just that, a curiosity.
Interesting that when I first started doing research on these things I found my way over to RV forums looking for a replacement.
At that time they were also having troubles finding a solution.
Then the trail went cold.
Iām looking close at @Matt018888 assembly.
Perhaps my pedal arm might work as it is?
I need to go dig one out.
Pin, wire color, function, idle, 50% and WOT
A, olive drab, sensor ground 0v, 0v, 0v
B, pink, ignition fed, 12v, 12v, 12v
D, grey, app 2 signal, 0v, 12v, 12v
F, blue, app 1 signal, .04, 2.0v, 3.6v
G, white/black, 5v reference, 5.0v, 5.0v, 5.0v
C, E, H, I, J not used.
Delphi 150 10 pin truck side.
A-F
B-G
C-H latch side
D-I
E-J
Plug 10pin to 6 pin harness adapter I made
6 pin plug
B
D
C latch side
G
A
F
This is the one I make. Same plug and most likely same pin-out.
An error was noted in the manual, but mine is wired correctly. IIRC
This is before I cut the arm to fit Gem car. If no hurry, I can get an unmodified pedal from Byron and send it after conversion.
He has extra that I need to buy from him.
The cut ones are ready to ship.
Iāll give it a shot, but I have no ideal how to order from you. I am actually in a hurry to get this truck back on the road itās been parked for 3 months while Iāve been searching, so I have no issues modifiying a arm.
