# Won’t keep a charge

**URL:** <https://community.electricforum.com/t/won-t-keep-a-charge/19336>\
**Category:** GEM Forum\
**Created:** [July 11, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/won-t-keep-a-charge/19336 "2020-07-11T18:26:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tom13](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/tom13/32/5940_2.png) [@Tom13](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Tom13)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/won-t-keep-a-charge/19336/1 "2020-07-11T18:26:02Z")

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I have a 2013 Gem and the batteries and charger are new and they won’t keep a charge. There is a number on the dash E1665.7 ? And it show turtle mode but it goes fine. Any help would be appreciated.

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/won-t-keep-a-charge/19336/2 "2020-07-11T18:45:02Z")

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What are the symptoms of “not keeping a charge”?  
The E is displayed with the number? The wrench symbol on?

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**Author:** ![Tom13](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/tom13/32/5940_2.png) [@Tom13](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Tom13)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/won-t-keep-a-charge/19336/3 "2020-07-11T18:49:16Z")

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No there is not a wrench

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**Author:** ![Tom13](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/tom13/32/5940_2.png) [@Tom13](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Tom13)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/won-t-keep-a-charge/19336/4 "2020-07-11T18:53:22Z")

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E1665.7, the turtle mode is blinking, if left unplugged for more than a day or two the batteries will go into 10 miles per hour.

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**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2020, 7:42pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/won-t-keep-a-charge/19336/5 "2020-07-11T19:42:27Z")

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E1665.7 is just a screen on the display . Hit the trip button and it will go away . What batteries and charger did you put in ?

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2020, 8:49pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/won-t-keep-a-charge/19336/6 "2020-07-11T20:49:02Z")

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Turn the main switch off when done charging. Only bad batteries will self discharge.  
Maybe charger isn’t finishing a correct charge cycle.

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**Author:** ![dougl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b19c9b/32.png) [@dougl](https://community.electricforum.com/u/dougl)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 4:19am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/won-t-keep-a-charge/19336/7 "2020-07-13T04:19:53Z")

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batteries come in many different types/technologies and I’m not just talking Lead, Lithium, etc ie there are different types of lead acid batteries and they charge differently. So your battery charger needs to be set according to what battery you have(wet acid, AGM, Gel, etc ) and sometimes even set to the capacity.

If the charger is not set correctly it can over charge(damaging batteries), under charge or fully charge.

This is why it was asked what batteries you have and what charger.

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**Author:** ![Tom13](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/tom13/32/5940_2.png) [@Tom13](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Tom13)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/won-t-keep-a-charge/19336/8 "2020-07-13T23:46:23Z")

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Attached are photos of both the charger and batteries, I have no idea what any of it means and any help is appreciated!

Thanks,

 ![IMG_7893.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/8/81bd3849d6ea260be3e4ac890f640d1740982dc1.jpeg)

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![IMG_7892.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/5/5780d51f912a89f72894d038deeef7d266f13c25.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 2:30am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/won-t-keep-a-charge/19336/9 "2020-07-14T02:30:01Z")

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> [@Inwo](#):
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> Turn the main switch off when done charging. Only bad batteries will self discharge.  
> Maybe charger isn’t finishing a correct charge cycle.

Anything to report?  
It’s almost always the lead batteries or connections.  
If batteries go dead when disconnected, one or more are bad or badly out of balance.

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**Author:** ![dougl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b19c9b/32.png) [@dougl](https://community.electricforum.com/u/dougl)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 6:15am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/won-t-keep-a-charge/19336/10 "2020-07-14T06:15:43Z")

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in other words, clean and inspect all battery connections including making sure the cables are well crimped and there’s no corrosion or discoloring on the connectors.

Regarding batteries, you’d need to have a digital volt meter(DVM) and know how to read the battery voltage on each battery. Unbalanced would show up as a battery with something less than 12.5V(ex: 10V).
