# Smoked a cell during volt conversion **URL:** \ **Category:** GEM Forum\ **Created:** [March 30, 2019, 12:26am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/smoked-a-cell-during-volt-conversion/15715 "2019-03-30T00:26:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Hbbill](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/hbbill/32/3993_2.png) [@Hbbill](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Hbbill)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2019, 12:26am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/smoked-a-cell-during-volt-conversion/15715/1 "2019-03-30T00:26:39Z")
So I was drilling the bottom of a volt battery pack to install compression rods when I think I hit a live cell. Got smoke with a bit of a sizzle sound. Removing drill bit revealed some copper chips and it was extremely warm (hot). Now that pack is down about 3.7 volts from the other packs. I’m pretty sure I killed at least one cell. Can I still use this pack? I don’t think I can use parallel to full pack. Can I tap a cell out one of the other packs to match? One of the carts getting converted to lithium has a T1 controller which can be sensitive to overvoltage. Can I use this pack on that one? Is there any use for my pack or did I kill it and just need to replace? Thank you for any and all comments. ---
**Author:** ![grantwest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/grantwest/32/15_2.png) [@grantwest](https://community.electricforum.com/u/grantwest)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2019, 2:06pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/smoked-a-cell-during-volt-conversion/15715/2 "2019-03-30T14:06:49Z")
Good question. I would think you could break out that cell and remove it from the pack and either re install a new cell. I am not sure but my gut tells me a damaged cell or pouch that’s cut or compromised needs to be removed. Sorry that sucks I hope it can be removed from the pack fairly easy ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/smoked-a-cell-during-volt-conversion/15715/3 "2019-03-31T03:54:59Z")
This is a thread on Volt disassembly. [https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=89680&start=50](https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=89680&start=50) Also shows Golf modules. ---
**Author:** ![Hbbill](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/hbbill/32/3993_2.png) [@Hbbill](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Hbbill)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 11:25pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/smoked-a-cell-during-volt-conversion/15715/4 "2019-03-31T23:25:18Z")
Thank you for that. Looks as complicated as I thought. Don’t know if I want to try that. Guess I’m in the market for another 44v pack now. Will be doing a thread on conversion once a bit further into it. Did you guys ever get the modules in Fontana you were talking about? I’m not too far away and have a truck. ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/smoked-a-cell-during-volt-conversion/15715/5 "2019-04-01T18:01:05Z")
It was a spark in Fontana that I wanted. I see they have a 2014 volt too. $1900 each ---
**Author:** ![Hbbill](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/hbbill/32/3993_2.png) [@Hbbill](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Hbbill)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/smoked-a-cell-during-volt-conversion/15715/6 "2019-04-01T18:24:48Z")
That seems like a pretty good deal. I can pick up and reship if you want. Once I’ve completed my conversion, I will probably have some people that would want to get some packs for their own conversions. I could also use one of the 24s volt packs as I smoked one of my original ones. Let me know if I can help in any way. ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/smoked-a-cell-during-volt-conversion/15715/7 "2019-04-01T18:59:15Z")
They have 2 Volts and a Spark. Overloaded with battery testing myself, but these are the best buys out there right now. By being able to pick them up, it should be a money maker/saver for someone. ---
**Author:** ![grantwest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/grantwest/32/15_2.png) [@grantwest](https://community.electricforum.com/u/grantwest)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/smoked-a-cell-during-volt-conversion/15715/8 "2019-04-01T20:28:53Z")
I would be Intrested in Seperating & prepping the packs. I could do the BMS leeds & JST connectors to a BMS 24z as well as setting up the shunt and getting the packs ready to install ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/smoked-a-cell-during-volt-conversion/15715/9 "2019-04-01T20:44:49Z")
The two of you should get together. It would help a lot of Gem owners. ---
**Author:** ![grantwest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/grantwest/32/15_2.png) [@grantwest](https://community.electricforum.com/u/grantwest)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/smoked-a-cell-during-volt-conversion/15715/10 "2019-04-02T15:17:47Z")
Yes I think we can all help each other. I’m confident we can get that pack shipped to my door for a few hundred. It’s not worth the $ and hassle that just paying a shipper to get, that is unless you don’t have anything better to do and you feel like a road trip. ---
**Author:** ![Hbbill](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/hbbill/32/3993_2.png) [@Hbbill](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Hbbill)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/smoked-a-cell-during-volt-conversion/15715/11 "2019-04-02T23:22:22Z")
I had mine shipped from Henderson nv to hb for $185 via freight. Entire volt module. I don’t mind making the trip to Fontana, but you’re quite a bit further. Would probably cost that in gas for my Power Wagon. Let me know if I can help. I could probably go for another entire volt module by mid May. Just have to get taxes taken care of first. ---
**Author:** ![grantwest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/grantwest/32/15_2.png) [@grantwest](https://community.electricforum.com/u/grantwest)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/smoked-a-cell-during-volt-conversion/15715/12 "2019-04-03T00:12:23Z")
I’m 5 hrs North of Fontana. So like I said I would just have them ship the battery here and I could get after it. ---
**Author:** ![Hbbill](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/hbbill/32/3993_2.png) [@Hbbill](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Hbbill)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 1:05am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/smoked-a-cell-during-volt-conversion/15715/13 "2019-04-03T01:05:54Z")
All good. I’m in for a 24s pack to replace my drilled one. but not this week!