# Scientific Pioneer needed to test new high performance Lithium pack . At tester pricing **URL:** \ **Category:** GEM Forum\ **Created:** [July 2, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/scientific-pioneer-needed-to-test-new-high-performance-lithium-pack-at-tester-pricing/19242 "2020-07-02T17:42:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/scientific-pioneer-needed-to-test-new-high-performance-lithium-pack-at-tester-pricing/19242/1 "2020-07-02T17:42:32Z")
I am putting together a new performance lithium pack . Almost done with the mods but don’t have a gem that I can test in . My personal Gem has The extended range lithium pack in it now and it would be way to difficult to remove it for this testing . Also my available time is very limited at the moment and I want to get this pack installed in a Gem and tested ASAP . I currently have big extended range packs available, they are the best battery packs for a Gem you can get . But they are over $2,000 and maybe more than some need . So I have been looking to put together a Setup that will give a Gem more range , Significantly increase its performance with a stock motor (eliminating the need to spend $800 on a Ride 4 Fun motor ) , and be easy to install . Plus want them to be NEW . Nothing wrong with the salvage cells but they can vary wildly depending on history . For an end user that is fine but not to sell . I also want to warranty them so the owner has a piece of mind installing them . All this and get the pricing under $1200 , Cheaper than a new set of Gels . So the set is made up of 3 modules for a total 24 cells (24s) . Voltage range 84v-96v The tester set is $900 . So what i’m looking for is a " Scientific Pioneer " with a 2005+ Gem for this first install that can get it in and running asap . The plugs for the balance leads have been modified for easy splicing into a BMS or balancer . You will need to order one . Also need to figure out how to connect the modules together for the main power cables (still scratching my head on this one ). The info I am looking for is a comparison in performance to your current setup and range . If this works as planned packs should be available in about 2 weeks . Might be able to get another one together for an additional tester (maybe pre 2005) After testing if you are not completely happy with it I will refund your money so no risk on your part . Upon successful completion of your mission you will receive a " scientific pioneer " limited addition badge . Any other questions let me know . Mike @ LithiumGods ---
**Author:** ![svandgts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/svandgts/32/7050_2.png) [@svandgts](https://community.electricforum.com/u/svandgts)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/scientific-pioneer-needed-to-test-new-high-performance-lithium-pack-at-tester-pricing/19242/2 "2020-07-02T20:10:20Z")
Hi Mike, I am up for it. My GEM is an all stock 2001 E4 with 1600 miles on it. Currently has 3 years old AGM batteries. At the GEM dealer until tomorrow to install front disk brakes and a new DQ charger. ---
**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/scientific-pioneer-needed-to-test-new-high-performance-lithium-pack-at-tester-pricing/19242/3 "2020-07-02T20:23:38Z")
I wanted to try this on a 2005+ first . I know for sure the t3-t5 can handle the voltage but I don’t know about the T2’s and don’t want to delay the project . If I get a second pack are you up for doing this kind of work ? ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/scientific-pioneer-needed-to-test-new-high-performance-lithium-pack-at-tester-pricing/19242/4 "2020-07-02T21:13:43Z")
The T2s won’t run on 99 volts. ---
**Author:** ![svandgts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/svandgts/32/7050_2.png) [@svandgts](https://community.electricforum.com/u/svandgts)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/scientific-pioneer-needed-to-test-new-high-performance-lithium-pack-at-tester-pricing/19242/5 "2020-07-02T21:26:54Z")
I can’t do the work as I don’t have time, so I will need to find someone here is SoCal that would be willing to do it… ---
**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/scientific-pioneer-needed-to-test-new-high-performance-lithium-pack-at-tester-pricing/19242/6 "2020-07-02T21:55:16Z")
That’s what I’m concerned about . I can eventually figure out the best setup for a pre 2005 but need some time . This one needs to go in a 2005+ with a DIY guy who can get it done quickly . ---
**Author:** ![Monkeyron](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/monkeyron/32/6634_2.png) [@Monkeyron](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Monkeyron)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/scientific-pioneer-needed-to-test-new-high-performance-lithium-pack-at-tester-pricing/19242/7 "2020-07-04T13:11:46Z")
Mike, I have another 07 E4 I have to bring home and it needs a set of batteries so I’m game. I will be converting to AC next. So I can do both systems for data. ---
**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2020, 2:14pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/scientific-pioneer-needed-to-test-new-high-performance-lithium-pack-at-tester-pricing/19242/8 "2020-07-04T14:14:41Z")
Great , Is this something you can get to soon ? ---
**Author:** ![Monkeyron](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/monkeyron/32/6634_2.png) [@Monkeyron](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Monkeyron)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2020, 3:11pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/scientific-pioneer-needed-to-test-new-high-performance-lithium-pack-at-tester-pricing/19242/9 "2020-07-04T15:11:32Z")
The Gem or the Battery pack? The Gem is ready to go. I had no room for it but I sold 2 Seadoos 2 trailers so I just need to go pick it up from the body shop ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Houseboater](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/old_houseboater/32/544_2.png) [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/scientific-pioneer-needed-to-test-new-high-performance-lithium-pack-at-tester-pricing/19242/10 "2020-07-04T15:37:43Z")
The T2’s LOVE 84 volts with INWO’s spoof ---
**Author:** ![Derrick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@Derrick](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Derrick)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/scientific-pioneer-needed-to-test-new-high-performance-lithium-pack-at-tester-pricing/19242/11 "2020-07-04T22:52:12Z")
I may be interested if your still looking for someone. I have a stock 08 elxd. ---
**Author:** ![Larry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/larry/32/1265_2.png) [@Larry](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Larry)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/scientific-pioneer-needed-to-test-new-high-performance-lithium-pack-at-tester-pricing/19242/12 "2020-07-14T17:24:03Z")
I have a 2008 with Gels that are long in the tooth. What would a BMS cost? Thanks, Larry Ready ---
**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 7:04pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/scientific-pioneer-needed-to-test-new-high-performance-lithium-pack-at-tester-pricing/19242/13 "2020-07-14T19:04:30Z")
BMS is $125 to $200 depending on which one you choose ---
**Author:** ![Streetman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/streetman/32/11346_2.png) [@Streetman](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Streetman)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/scientific-pioneer-needed-to-test-new-high-performance-lithium-pack-at-tester-pricing/19242/14 "2020-07-15T15:31:10Z")
Just saw this. If you’re still looking for someone, I’m good to go next week, on Tuesday. I’m just up in St Pete, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/scientific-pioneer-needed-to-test-new-high-performance-lithium-pack-at-tester-pricing/19242/15 "2020-07-15T15:57:50Z")
Thanks , I have my pioneers lined up . Waiting on getting the batteries in . Hopefully next week so we can get some install data back . ---
**Author:** ![Ljtoro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/ljtoro/32/5120_2.png) [@Ljtoro](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Ljtoro)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/scientific-pioneer-needed-to-test-new-high-performance-lithium-pack-at-tester-pricing/19242/16 "2020-07-15T21:45:30Z")
I’m always down to experiment brotha ---
**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/scientific-pioneer-needed-to-test-new-high-performance-lithium-pack-at-tester-pricing/19242/17 "2020-07-27T21:18:23Z")
Modules finally came in . @Ljtoro is going to be getting a set in the next couple of days and help with getting them dialed in . I would like to get one more set out to someone who is ready to do an install and is up for a little challenge . Info from 3 testers should give us all the data needed . ( @Monkeyron also has a set is in the process of installing) [https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMnERFfPGkxJepkj0UPvE8YavfYJrJmmdK8a6Iu](https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMnERFfPGkxJepkj0UPvE8YavfYJrJmmdK8a6Iu) ---
**Author:** ![jbcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/839c29/32.png) [@jbcrew](https://community.electricforum.com/u/jbcrew)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 2:46am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/scientific-pioneer-needed-to-test-new-high-performance-lithium-pack-at-tester-pricing/19242/18 "2020-07-28T02:46:52Z")
I’m still game if you’re doing pre-2005