# RE: Magic Magnet review thread **URL:** \ **Category:** NEV & LSV Forum\ **Created:** [February 19, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/re-magic-magnet-review-thread/18129 "2020-02-19T17:43:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Monkeyron](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/monkeyron/32/6634_2.png) [@Monkeyron](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Monkeyron)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/re-magic-magnet-review-thread/18129/1 "2020-02-19T17:43:53Z")
> [@Magic Magnet review thread "price increase"](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread/5783/50): > > No, these are different. The one with switches is to keep from overspeeding motor. By just raising the limit a few %. That’s a special one for Rodney. The new model shouldn’t jump if I get it working. Don’t worry the 1/2 speed is the only one that sells. smiley Just sent one to your buddy. I haven’t found the threads that we were discussing yesterday other than in my email inbox. What exactly do you need to spoof the voltage when switching to 96 volt lithium? ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/re-magic-magnet-review-thread/18129/2 "2020-02-19T18:35:48Z")
The controller will only turn on at less than about 84 volts. Need to fool the controller into turning on, then it runs fine. ---
**Author:** ![Monkeyron](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/monkeyron/32/6634_2.png) [@Monkeyron](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Monkeyron)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/re-magic-magnet-review-thread/18129/3 "2020-02-19T18:56:05Z")
Ok do I remove it and send it to you or is it something I can do with a programmer I just received? Don’t want to cut you out of making money! But? Thanks so much for your help on this monstrosity of a project that I have taken on here with 6 GM cars > **···** > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 10:36 AM Inwo via Electric Forum [electricforum@discoursemail.com](mailto:electricforum@discoursemail.com) wrote: > > > ![](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/45/1067_2.png "Inwo") > > > > [Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/inwo) > > > > ``` > > February 19 > > > > ``` > > > > The controller will only turn on at less than about 84 volts. Need to fool the controller into turning on, then it runs fine. > > > * * * > > > > [Visit Message](https://community.electricforum.com/t/re-magic-magnet-review-thread/18129/2) or reply to this email to respond to [Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/inwo), [Monkeyron](https://community.electricforum.com/u/monkeyron). > > > To unsubscribe from these emails, [click here](https://community.electricforum.com/email/unsubscribe/66c2664e58bb441c05a0fa0c7aeceb9d0bc39fc3cc44eb0446d58011844021cc). ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 9:28pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/re-magic-magnet-review-thread/18129/4 "2020-02-19T21:28:46Z")
No, it’s a simple device that connects in-line. Wait till you have everything else done. They leaf makes it a big job, but the price is right. ---
**Author:** ![Monkeyron](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/monkeyron/32/6634_2.png) [@Monkeyron](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Monkeyron)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 2:59pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/re-magic-magnet-review-thread/18129/5 "2020-02-20T14:59:42Z")
Good morning, This same distributor has these NEC batteries. 48 volt packs at 90% efficiency left used and I can probably get them out the door for $600 a piece. Let me know what your thoughts are on this as they seem to be a better choice? Instead of the 70% Leaf cells ? here’s the specs, #### NEC A123 system LifePo4 48V 5 kWh 120 Ah Battery Golf Cart RV Solar Storage NEC LifePo4 Lithium Ion Battery Capacity: 120 Ah Voltage Range: 35.0v - 46.8v Energy: 5 kWh Cell Configuration: 13S 6P Max Current Discharge Rate: 150A Max Current Charge Rate: 150A Dimensions: 25 x 6.5 x 9.5 inch Weight: 97 LBS Operation Temperature: -30°C to 55°C ![s-l400 (1).jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/3/33558e211f8e62912d20b408e54978097667efdc.jpeg) > **···** > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 1:29 PM Inwo via Electric Forum [electricforum@discoursemail.com](mailto:electricforum@discoursemail.com) wrote: > > > ![](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/45/1067_2.png "Inwo") > > > > [Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/inwo) > > > > ``` > > February 19 > > > > ``` > > > > No, it’s a simple device that connects in-line. Wait till you have everything else done. > > > They leaf makes it a big job, but the price is right. > > > * * * > > > > [Visit Message](https://community.electricforum.com/t/re-magic-magnet-review-thread/18129/4) or reply to this email to respond to [Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/inwo), [Monkeyron](https://community.electricforum.com/u/monkeyron). > > > To unsubscribe from these emails, [click here](https://community.electricforum.com/email/unsubscribe/e500319dabc83431c73e6f34b6f4f6294e81df56f07dbd363a46d5a869249f68). ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/re-magic-magnet-review-thread/18129/6 "2020-02-20T17:13:44Z")
It takes lots of work and time to find what batteries work well in a Gem. $$$ is only one consideration. LiFePo4 is a completely different chemistry. Better in some respects, but not in others. My recommendation is go with something proven. 150a peak jumps out. That doesn’t seem right. Gem needs 400 amp peaks for any kind of performance. It will take at least 2p to get enough current from these. Paralleling cells is easy, modules, not so much. If you want LiFePo4, go with an old Chevy Spark or prismatic cells. Prismatic are simplest to install and run. No bms needed with discrete “cell mounted” balancers. I only have one set of drop-in 25s 60ah prismatic left until spring, and it seem that will not be enough range for you. See if you can find a way to fit 50 of them in a gem. I’ll give you the dimensions if interested. Come spring, I will want to unload the last 300 cells that are left, at a good price. I think Chevy Volt or Spark are a “Gem” proven battery that is easy to find at junk yard. Easy to parallel and connect to bms. You can even go with the old ones that are a good buy. Like a 2012. They won’t be degraded like the Leafs, in most cases. Easy to disassemble, with lots of nice parts inside. I’ll find you a link to some. Dave ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/re-magic-magnet-review-thread/18129/7 "2020-02-20T17:22:02Z")
For sale, but not by me. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/3/37e3bdffbb9597e245529604104995630800cd25.png) Chevy Spark has 6 x 16s modules. Enough for 2 high mileage Gems. Volt: ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/e/e38385b18dfc8c75a104a6fdb5ef58ce6fe43c13.png) ---
**Author:** ![Monkeyron](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/monkeyron/32/6634_2.png) [@Monkeyron](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Monkeyron)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/re-magic-magnet-review-thread/18129/8 "2020-02-20T18:36:15Z")
Thanks Dave, I will be checking with the auction for a totaled Volt. I will PayPal you later for the MMs and maybe the Spoof device. Ron > **···** > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 9:22 AM Inwo via Electric Forum [electricforum@discoursemail.com](mailto:electricforum@discoursemail.com) wrote: > > > ![](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/45/1067_2.png "Inwo") > > > > [Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/inwo) > > > > ``` > > February 20 > > > > ``` > > > > For sale, but not by me. > > > Chevy Spark has 6 x 16s modules. Enough for 2 high mileage Gems. > > > * * * > > > > [Visit Message](https://community.electricforum.com/t/re-magic-magnet-review-thread/18129/7) or reply to this email to respond to [Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/inwo), [Monkeyron](https://community.electricforum.com/u/monkeyron). > > > To unsubscribe from these emails, [click here](https://community.electricforum.com/email/unsubscribe/c250e290e0cd12c2ba55eb68cc1724448ea595ec3580d00dc216d0fb1c068e2b). ---
**Author:** ![Monkeyron](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/monkeyron/32/6634_2.png) [@Monkeyron](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Monkeyron)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 12:32am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/re-magic-magnet-review-thread/18129/9 "2020-02-25T00:32:04Z")
Hey Dave I got the magic magnets I installed it on my 08 special edition with a 7 horsepower motor as soon as I stepped on the gas I got an 82 wrench? then two more times it went to an 81 wrench it was an 81 thereafter each time? Ron > **···** > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 10:36 AM Ron Williams [monkeyron99@gmail.com](mailto:monkeyron99@gmail.com) wrote: > > > Thanks Dave, > > I will be checking with the auction for a totaled Volt. > > I will PayPal you later for the MMs and maybe the Spoof device. > > > Ron > > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 9:22 AM Inwo via Electric Forum [electricforum@discoursemail.com](mailto:electricforum@discoursemail.com) wrote: > > > > ![](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/45/1067_2.png "Inwo") > > > > > > [Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/inwo) > > > > > > ``` > > > February 20 > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > For sale, but not by me. > > > > Chevy Spark has 6 x 16s modules. Enough for 2 high mileage Gems. > > > > * * * > > > > > > [Visit Message](https://community.electricforum.com/t/re-magic-magnet-review-thread/18129/7) or reply to this email to respond to [Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/inwo), [Monkeyron](https://community.electricforum.com/u/monkeyron). > > > > To unsubscribe from these emails, [click here](https://community.electricforum.com/email/unsubscribe/c250e290e0cd12c2ba55eb68cc1724448ea595ec3580d00dc216d0fb1c068e2b). ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/re-magic-magnet-review-thread/18129/10 "2020-02-25T01:05:31Z")
That’s the code I would expect if something was wrong with the MM. Look inside the cover to see if #1 and #2 switches are on. Make sure it is plugged in solidly. Try a different MM. Car runs fine without device installed? Can you test it in another car? Let me know. Dave ---
**Author:** ![Monkeyron](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/monkeyron/32/6634_2.png) [@Monkeyron](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Monkeyron)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 1:23am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/re-magic-magnet-review-thread/18129/11 "2020-02-25T01:23:58Z")
I put some taller wheels on adapters to the front and got an extra 2 miles an hour without the mm. Then I plugged in the mm and got 82. I did pop it open and I do believe one and three were on. I have another one I bought from the guy I bought the car from and had the same result. It was your older hot glued unit. I have a 05 e2 I have to install the newly painted pieces on. I will try that in the morning. Ron > **···** > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 5:06 PM Inwo via Electric Forum [electricforum@discoursemail.com](mailto:electricforum@discoursemail.com) wrote: > > > ![](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/45/1067_2.png "Inwo") > > > > [Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/inwo) > > > > ``` > > February 25 > > > > ``` > > > > That’s the code I would expect if something was wrong with the MM. > > > > Look inside the cover to see if #1 and #2 switches are on. > > > > Make sure it is plugged in solidly. > > > > Try a different MM. > > > > Car runs fine without device installed? > > > > Can you test it in another car? > > > Let me know. > > > > Dave > > > * * * > > > > [Visit Message](https://community.electricforum.com/t/re-magic-magnet-review-thread/18129/10) or reply to this email to respond to [Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/inwo), [Monkeyron](https://community.electricforum.com/u/monkeyron). > > > To unsubscribe from these emails, [click here](https://community.electricforum.com/email/unsubscribe/309b45b9a73affac3fe6478ceb319105a14ed286f1bb2bf13f83f0cf08988047). ---
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Sometimes a motor sensor, controller, or magnet is weak and mm won’t work. Rare but it happens. If you can’t get it to work, send it back. Dave ---
**Author:** ![Monkeyron](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/monkeyron/32/6634_2.png) [@Monkeyron](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Monkeyron)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 2:38am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/re-magic-magnet-review-thread/18129/13 "2020-03-04T02:38:16Z")
Dave, I found the Tack Pickup was not snapped in all the way. I snapped it in and the the MM worked great! I installed 205/45/17 wheels and got it to 37mph and 33 level. Wooo hooo. Now phase 2 for Lithium and spoof next. Ron > **···** > > On 2/20/2020 9:22 AM, Inwo via Electric > Forum wrote: > > > ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/45/1067_2.png) > > [Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/inwo) > > > > ``` > > February 20 > > > > ``` > > > > For sale, but not by me. > > > ``` > > Chevy Spark has 6 x 16s > > > > ``` > > > > modules. Enough for 2 high mileage Gems. > > > * * * > > > > [ Visit > > Message](https://community.electricforum.com/t/re-magic-magnet-review-thread/18129/7) or reply to this email to respond to [Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/inwo), [Monkeyron](https://community.electricforum.com/u/monkeyron). > > > To unsubscribe from these emails, [click here](https://community.electricforum.com/email/unsubscribe/c250e290e0cd12c2ba55eb68cc1724448ea595ec3580d00dc216d0fb1c068e2b).