# Question on Gel batteries
**URL:** https://community.electricforum.com/t/question-on-gel-batteries/13231
**Category:** GEM Forum
**Created:** [January 16, 2018, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/question-on-gel-batteries/13231 "2018-01-16T14:42:52Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@Pops17](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Pops17)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2018, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/question-on-gel-batteries/13231/1 "2018-01-16T14:42:52Z")
Hey Guys, I’m looking at a 2013 GEM E4 that has original gel batteries in it according to the seller. I’d like to hear some opinions on the life of a gel battery. Being almost 5 years old, are these batteries close to being done or do they have a few years left in them? FYI, the car was purchased and has always been in Florida, if that’s a factor and it has about 3k miles on it. Thanks for reading
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### Author:  [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/question-on-gel-batteries/13231/2 "2018-01-16T21:44:32Z")
They don’t have a “FEW” years left in them. Maybe 2 maybe none.
Rodney
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### Author:  [@Pops17](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Pops17)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2018, 10:13pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/question-on-gel-batteries/13231/3 "2018-01-16T22:13:05Z")
Thanks, appreciate the tip.
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### Author:  [@electriceccentric](https://community.electricforum.com/u/electriceccentric)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/question-on-gel-batteries/13231/4 "2018-01-18T15:22:34Z")
When you do decide to change, do not stay with gel or acid. Lithium Manganese are now readily available, and the price can actually be less than acid/gel. If you do go lithium manganese, it might be very well be the last battery purchase for you. A little perfect charger, adjusted to manganese is available through Texas at $100 bucks max.
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### Author:  [@Pops17](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Pops17)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/question-on-gel-batteries/13231/5 "2018-01-18T17:30:55Z")
Thanks for the tip. Where is the charger available?
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### Author:  [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/question-on-gel-batteries/13231/6 "2018-01-22T17:43:47Z")
pops17,
my 2013 gem has 11,000 miles original batteries . it is 100% dependent on if they kept the fully charged all the time and if they drained them below 50% capacity too many times . @ 50 % dod east penn says they will take over 2,000 charges . do the math .
i just removed them from my cart(getting an advanced lithium upgrade) and put them in another gem .
you dont need another charger your will work great with lithium after a simple software upgrade .
electriceccentric didn’t do a gem car so he probably needed a new charger , you dont
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### Author:  [@Pops17](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Pops17)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/question-on-gel-batteries/13231/7 "2018-01-22T18:07:24Z")
Thanks for the info kinghappy, that gives me a more confident feeling about the gels. Thanks again