# Problem **URL:** \ **Category:** E-Z-GO\ **Created:** [December 5, 2013, 11:07pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/problem/3914 "2013-12-05T23:07:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Old\_Houseboater](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/old_houseboater/32/544_2.png) [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 11:07pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/problem/3914/1 "2013-12-05T23:07:05Z")
Cart shudders when starting from stop - after its barely moving every things fine. This is not the typical bad battery shudder but only when starting out normally. Help ! TXT Freedom Cart non DCS ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Houseboater](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/old_houseboater/32/544_2.png) [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 6:20pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/problem/3914/2 "2014-01-14T18:20:22Z")
He never figured it out. Sold it. Buyer couldn’t feel it. ---
**Author:** ![jpeppenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/76d3ee/32.png) [@jpeppenger](https://community.electricforum.com/u/jpeppenger)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/problem/3914/3 "2015-10-13T22:06:38Z")
My 2001 e825 shudders upon startup but smooths out, it seems to surge a little while cruising. Any ideas. jpeppenger ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Houseboater](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/old_houseboater/32/544_2.png) [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 10:11pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/problem/3914/4 "2015-10-13T22:11:53Z")
Answered in previous post ---
**Author:** ![jpeppenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/76d3ee/32.png) [@jpeppenger](https://community.electricforum.com/u/jpeppenger)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 4:51am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/problem/3914/5 "2015-10-14T04:51:37Z")
Which previous post? ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Houseboater](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/old_houseboater/32/544_2.png) [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 5:07am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/problem/3914/6 "2015-10-14T05:07:09Z")
[http://www.electricforum.com/cars/global-electric-motor-cars-nevs-forum/9536-gem-cart-shutters-when-starting.html](http://www.electricforum.com/cars/global-electric-motor-cars-nevs-forum/9536-gem-cart-shutters-when-starting.html) ---
**Author:** ![jpeppenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/76d3ee/32.png) [@jpeppenger](https://community.electricforum.com/u/jpeppenger)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 11:01am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/problem/3914/7 "2015-10-18T11:01:50Z")
[quote=OLD HOUSEBOATER;17625]Cart shudders when starting from stop - after its barely moving every things fine. This is not the typical bad battery shudder but only when starting out normally. Help ! TXT Freedom Cart non DCS[/quote] I took my motor out and cleaned and reinstalled. My e825 still buckles and shudders and surges when at high speeds. any ideas? ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Houseboater](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/old_houseboater/32/544_2.png) [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 11:28am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/problem/3914/8 "2015-10-18T11:28:43Z")
1 Does it still stutter when starting out? 2 If yes could still be a motor problem - check for open commutator segments 3 If no, could be programming problem - has any programming been done since the last time it was running properly? 4 Controller problem 5 if possible try another motor. This exact problem has happened to me a couple of months ago after a program change. I could not get it back, I swapped motors with my other cart and the problem went away. Both carts run perfectly. (5 hp motor T1 controller) ---
**Author:** ![jpeppenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/76d3ee/32.png) [@jpeppenger](https://community.electricforum.com/u/jpeppenger)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 11:36am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/problem/3914/9 "2015-10-18T11:36:59Z")
very strange, the motor looked fine but what do I know, will have to research this further. I think I hear thud or something when coasting but not really sure. thanks million ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Houseboater](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/old_houseboater/32/544_2.png) [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 11:49am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/problem/3914/10 "2015-10-18T11:49:02Z")
You have 2 posted in 2 areas on the same subject. Suggest you delete one of them. Its confusing when we sign in on recent posts.