# Old Leaf with low miles - issues?

**URL:** <https://community.electricforum.com/t/old-leaf-with-low-miles-issues/6351>\
**Category:** Nissan Electric Car Forum\
**Created:** [September 12, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/old-leaf-with-low-miles-issues/6351 "2016-09-12T14:04:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/858c86/32.png) [@Neville](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Neville)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/old-leaf-with-low-miles-issues/6351/1 "2016-09-12T14:04:20Z")

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I’m looking at buying a second-hand 2011 Leaf which is currently in transit from Japan. The car has done less than 4000 miles (6000km) since new so less than 1000 miles per year on average.

Are there any known issues with older under-utilised batteries?

If so, could LeafSpy be used to reveal any problems?

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**Author:** ![Old\_Houseboater](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/old_houseboater/32/544_2.png) [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 8:22am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/old-leaf-with-low-miles-issues/6351/2 "2016-09-13T08:22:47Z")

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Leaf had/has battery upgrades available at VERY reasonable cost.

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**Author:** ![Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/858c86/32.png) [@Neville](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Neville)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/old-leaf-with-low-miles-issues/6351/3 "2016-09-13T16:22:13Z")

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> [@OLD HOUSEBOATER;32572](#):
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> Leaf had/has battery upgrades available at VERY reasonable cost.

Thanks Old Houseboater. I’m certainly hoping I won’t need to upgrade the battery at ANY cost, but could you please elaborate on what upgrades you are referring to?

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**Author:** ![Old\_Houseboater](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/old_houseboater/32/544_2.png) [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 4:26pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/old-leaf-with-low-miles-issues/6351/4 "2016-09-13T16:26:04Z")

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As I understand: If original batteries degraded faster than programmed an upgraded set was/is available at a very moderate cost.

Got this info from the owner of a 2012

Rodney

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**Author:** ![Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/858c86/32.png) [@Neville](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Neville)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/old-leaf-with-low-miles-issues/6351/5 "2016-09-13T18:31:05Z")

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Ok, that’s interesting Rodney. It will need some more research but I wonder if the deal would be transferable to subsequent owners and also available in country other than the country of origin. It would definitely be full marks to Nissan if the answer to both of those is Yes! Also when the battery is already more than 5 years old. I read somewhere that the original battery warranty in Japan was for 8 years, but Nissan dealers here in New Zealand won’t honour it, even if they import the second-hand cars themselves.

So I’m really just wondering if there are any warning signs I could pick up through LeafSpy that could alert me to any potential problems.

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**Author:** ![NatGeo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/898d66/32.png) [@NatGeo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/NatGeo)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 9:02am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/old-leaf-with-low-miles-issues/6351/6 "2016-10-20T09:02:34Z")

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Hopefully it will be available in multiple countries.

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**Author:** ![Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/858c86/32.png) [@Neville](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Neville)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:25pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/old-leaf-with-low-miles-issues/6351/7 "2016-10-20T15:25:46Z")

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A forlorn hope!

Anyway I didn’t buy the car concerned because LeafSpy showed that it had one near-dead cell.