# New member **URL:** \ **Category:** GEM Forum\ **Created:** [October 30, 2016, 10:42am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-member/6450 "2016-10-30T10:42:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![quincy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/quincy/32/3361_2.png) [@quincy](https://community.electricforum.com/u/quincy)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 10:42am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-member/6450/1 "2016-10-30T10:42:51Z")
I have had a 2001 4 pass. Gem car for about two years now with no issues. It has Gel batteries and now it seems not to want to charge. I plug in the car as directed when it goes below 90% but now the green charging light goes on for about twenty seconds then it changes to a code of four flashing red lights. The manual says this is standard when the E break is on so, if I am understanding this correctly the charger seems to be dropping out with nothing else wrong with the system. Am I looking at a charger replacement or something else? If so which charger is best to use? Thank you all in advance for any advice you might offer. Quincy. ---
**Author:** ![grantwest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/grantwest/32/15_2.png) [@grantwest](https://community.electricforum.com/u/grantwest)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 1:32pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-member/6450/2 "2016-10-30T13:32:54Z")
Is it the Orignal Zivan charger? They tend to give up the ghost around this time. Very few Orignal non rebuilt chargers out their now. Elcon in Sacramento rebuilds them for around $175 and a 3-4 week turn around. Or you can buy a aftermarket Quick Charge for around $400 and have it in a day or 2 and then sell your rebuilt Zivan after your get it back from Elcon ---
**Author:** ![quincy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/quincy/32/3361_2.png) [@quincy](https://community.electricforum.com/u/quincy)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-member/6450/3 "2016-10-31T02:03:11Z")
> [@Gwest;33308](#): > > Is it the Orignal Zivan charger? They tend to give up the ghost around this time. Very few Orignal non rebuilt chargers out their now. Elcon in Sacramento rebuilds them for around $175 and a 3-4 week turn around. Or you can buy a aftermarket Quick Charge for around $400 and have it in a day or 2 and then sell your rebuilt Zivan after your get it back from Elcon Thank you for the reply Gwest. I do not know if it is the original charger yet. Is there anything else it might be before I order a replacement? If I do decide to replace rather than rebuild is there one new charger that is better than the others? ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 11:14am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-member/6450/4 "2016-10-31T11:14:41Z")
Code 4 can be ac power problem in Gem specific DQ charger. [https://delta-q.com/support/#manual3a](https://delta-q.com/support/#manual3a) ---
**Author:** ![grantwest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/grantwest/32/15_2.png) [@grantwest](https://community.electricforum.com/u/grantwest)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 12:13pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-member/6450/5 "2016-10-31T12:13:07Z")
I would call electric conversions and explain your error code or beeps to them and they can let you know here is their phone number (916) 441-4161 ---
**Author:** ![grantwest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/grantwest/32/15_2.png) [@grantwest](https://community.electricforum.com/u/grantwest)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 12:14pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-member/6450/6 "2016-10-31T12:14:53Z")
Ps what I have done in the past is I’ve gone on eBay and bought a reconditioned’ Zivan charger and then send my old charger in for rebuild and when it gets back ( sometimes months later ) I just put it on eBay and resell it. Sometimes you can buy low and sell high