# New guy with broke gem

**URL:** https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442
**Category:** GEM Forum
**Created:** [October 15, 2015, 5:25pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442 "2015-10-15T17:25:23Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![SCOUT202](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@SCOUT202](https://community.electricforum.com/u/SCOUT202)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2015, 5:25pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442/1 "2015-10-15T17:25:23Z")

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Hey everyone I was just told about the site… I have been a happy Gem owner for approx 4 years I own a e 85 2001 utility bed version lifted 7 inches with 23x14 custom rims and wheels. Love this thing and its been bullet proof.  
recently while going to get my mail my cart slowed dramatically and threw a -49 code. Cart will only run in reverse now and has been parked since.  
I just got some info on how to test the motor for dead short so I’m going to be in the market for a motor or a controller shortly and hopefully not both.

I have also been doing a rear motor conversion creating an independent rear suspension rear swing arm utilizing a 1968 BMW independent rear differential. I know cool right? Its all complete except for the rear splines i’m in need of two rear axle nipples off a stock Gem to complete my live rear axle.  
Hopefully in the end I’ll have a Hybrid gem Electric up front and gas powered rear. Powered by a Yamaha 250 cc automatic 5 speed with reverse.

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### Author: ![SCOUT202](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@SCOUT202](https://community.electricforum.com/u/SCOUT202)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2015, 5:53pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442/2 "2015-10-15T17:53:09Z")

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another photo

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### Author: ![Old\_Houseboater](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/old_houseboater/32/544_2.png) [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442/3 "2015-10-15T19:23:01Z")

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Neat truck, keep us up to date.

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### Author: ![SCOUT202](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@SCOUT202](https://community.electricforum.com/u/SCOUT202)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2015, 7:04am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442/4 "2015-10-16T07:04:31Z")

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checked my motor as you instructed and found no dead shorts.:clap2:  
any way of checking controller or is it obvious:mad:

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### Author: ![SCOUT202](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@SCOUT202](https://community.electricforum.com/u/SCOUT202)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2015, 7:15am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442/5 "2015-10-16T07:15:08Z")

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so here it is ready for some splined axle shaft ends. It was built off set to accommodate the left sided shaft drive from motor. Will be using the stock dual rear shocks per side trying to keep it simple  
axle ratio for the 68 bmw rear differential is 2 to 1 matching the gear of the Yamaha tire size is same so with any luck should roll out pretty good.  
Stopping it may be a problem.

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### Author: ![Old\_Houseboater](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/old_houseboater/32/544_2.png) [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2015, 10:20am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442/6 "2015-10-16T10:20:06Z")

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Doesn’t sound good.

You might ohm out the motor

Field about 1.3 to 1.5 ohms

Amature about .1 to .2 ohms

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### Author: ![SCOUT202](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@SCOUT202](https://community.electricforum.com/u/SCOUT202)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2015, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442/7 "2015-10-16T14:02:52Z")

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[quote=OLD HOUSEBOATER;26729]Doesn’t sound good.

You might ohm out the motor

Field about 1.3 to 1.5 ohms

Amature about 1 to 2 ohms[/quote]

field 1.0  
Amature 2.5

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### Author: ![Old\_Houseboater](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/old_houseboater/32/544_2.png) [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2015, 2:45pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442/8 "2015-10-16T14:45:13Z")

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Your cool.

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#### Post date: [October 16, 2015, 2:53pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442/9 "2015-10-16T14:53:02Z")

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Check brushes!

Or to be sure, without pulling motor.  
Wheels off ground, motor disconnected, jumper cables from 12v battery to armature, should draw ~100 amps from Rodney’s R spec. ie .15 ohms.

If you can’t measure high amps, parallel field to armature with 10 amp jumpers. See if motor runs smooth on 12 volts.

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#### Post date: [October 16, 2015, 2:57pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442/10 "2015-10-16T14:57:39Z")

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Usually, If brushes were bad it wouldn’t ohm out

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#### Post date: [October 16, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442/11 "2015-10-16T15:13:44Z")

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Low ohms on power circuits are notoriously hard to do without a special low reading ohmmeter.

His reading of X10 expected reading doesn’t sound good.

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#### Post date: [October 16, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442/12 "2015-10-16T16:26:38Z")

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He just didn’t put in the Decimal point. These motors are [bricks.as](http://bricks.as) long as they show continuity and no opens or shorts to ground their usually good to go.

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### Author: ![SCOUT202](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@SCOUT202](https://community.electricforum.com/u/SCOUT202)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2015, 4:55pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442/13 "2015-10-16T16:55:58Z")

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> [@OLD HOUSEBOATER;26743](#):
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> Usually, If brushes were bad it wouldn’t ohm out

So am I looking at a controller or??? any way of testing the controller?

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#### Post date: [October 16, 2015, 5:00pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442/14 "2015-10-16T17:00:58Z")

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#### Post date: [October 20, 2015, 7:01am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442/15 "2015-10-20T07:01:15Z")

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[quote=Inwo;26745]Low ohms on power circuits are notoriously hard to do without a special low reading ohmmeter.

His reading of X10 expected reading doesn’t sound good.[/quote]

I have tested the motor with battery and 10 amp jumper to the fields motor turns in reverse If i reverse pos and neg still runs in reverse  
re ohmed motor  
armature is 1.6  
fields .5 to .7

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#### Post date: [October 20, 2015, 8:18am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442/16 "2015-10-20T08:18:48Z")

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Those are good Numbers

Swap either the Field wires or the Armature wires to change direction Not both.

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#### Post date: [October 20, 2015, 8:57am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442/17 "2015-10-20T08:57:29Z")

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My controller say Trans2 is this a t-2?

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#### Post date: [October 20, 2015, 8:58am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442/18 "2015-10-20T08:58:30Z")

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the end of the GE # is T1

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#### Post date: [October 20, 2015, 9:08am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442/19 "2015-10-20T09:08:30Z")

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anyone got an after market part # for the front control arms bushings?  
what year civic brakes fit ?

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#### Post date: [October 20, 2015, 10:58am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-guy-with-broke-gem/5442/20 "2015-10-20T10:58:34Z")

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Check Daniel’s list

Mine came off a 96.
