# New Batteries for the Think :) - Thanks David

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**Category:** Ford NEVs\
**Created:** [November 21, 2021, 3:11pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-batteries-for-the-think-thanks-david/22940 "2021-11-21T15:11:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![cij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@cij](https://community.electricforum.com/u/cij)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 3:12pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-batteries-for-the-think-thanks-david/22940/1 "2021-11-21T15:12:00Z")

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I have installed a 22 cell (92v) battery built by David Bissen and am having great success. While the setup is still very new, and the permanent installation is not finalized, I wanted to begin the documentation for other Think owners that may be interested in replacing their AGM and upgrading to a lithium battery setup. As a background, my old battery setup would allow me to go a couple of miles, which while fine to get to the beach and back, limited me to staying close to home. I wanted to be able to easily go 15 miles without worrying about the battery. I believe I have a lot more…

In terms of fit and finish, the battery pack easily fits in the stock location under the front seats. I am in the process of fabricating a battery tie down and will use the factory bolt holes. I will also likely add fans to the case, but so far this has not proven to be necessary. Currently I have sent my charger to Dave to reprogram the charger so I can get a full 92v charge. The charge profile I was using only took the cells to 84v, but that was a HUGE improvement over the AGM setup.

Acceleration feels faster (maybe less weight, maybe placebo), but the speed is still governed at 25 mph :(…The cart drives fine and I have been able to drive the cart into and around town and back without any issue (other than limited top speed). The furthest I have driven the cart is ~ 6+ miles and voltage dropped from ~83v to 80v.

Ideally, I could reprogram the controller to allow the cart to drive faster. Maybe I should consider changing the gear ratio so I can go a tad faster without spinning the motor too fast? While 35 mph would be nice, 45mph would be nicer :).

Pictures and updates to follow…

My next modification will be installing disc brakes…

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**Author:** ![jakejacobson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jakejacobson](https://community.electricforum.com/u/jakejacobson)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 1:21pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-batteries-for-the-think-thanks-david/22940/2 "2021-11-23T13:21:32Z")

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I’d really like to see pictures of your final install. I’ve been toying with this as well.

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 12:15am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-batteries-for-the-think-thanks-david/22940/3 "2022-02-12T00:15:46Z")

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Split this topic on February 12, 2022, 12:15am UTC

13 posts were split to a new topic: [Think LiFePo4 batteries](https://community.electricforum.com/t/think-lifepo4-batteries/23491)

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**Author:** ![cij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@cij](https://community.electricforum.com/u/cij)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 1:08am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-batteries-for-the-think-thanks-david/22940/5 "2021-11-30T01:08:50Z")

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I’ll post pictures shortly…I would HIGHLY recommend going through David (vs. importing from a Chinese seller) as you will likely need support…

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 12:17am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-batteries-for-the-think-thanks-david/22940/7 "2021-12-01T00:17:37Z")

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@cij got a drop in kit.  
I also sell the bare cells for diy, $100 each.  
Use 20-24 for 72v to 88v.  
94ah or double up for 188ah.  
These are new real ev batteries in current use, not lifepo4.  
In stock, 1 week delivery with support.

 ![samsung 94ah cells](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/f/fc4dfd36e9aeb10041429f919e8bf80f3bd50ddf.jpeg)  
 ![SDI 94ah size](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/c/c2bcd1a691cba4f87eb1a65ee616b27282a110a9.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 12:26am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-batteries-for-the-think-thanks-david/22940/8 "2021-12-01T00:26:13Z")

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![sdi think box](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/1/135437c51bd5c9078c5488f7a8d4270b7d1f5a28.jpeg)  
 ![sdi think](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/e/e170a5f51d7714fd55ea728f055f1918f4ce12e1.jpeg)

 ![tool box battery](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/5/5d5fd1fc60e101553179c77fc02fce28a5a264a5.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Mrbig](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/mrbig/32/10046_2.png) [@Mrbig](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Mrbig)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-batteries-for-the-think-thanks-david/22940/9 "2021-12-01T12:50:42Z")

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Can you get the Samsung SDIs Third Generation 120 Ah cells, same dimension as the 94ah model?

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 1:04pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-batteries-for-the-think-thanks-david/22940/10 "2021-12-01T13:04:27Z")

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> [@Mrbig](#):
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> SDIs Third Generation 120 Ah cells,

I have not looked for them.

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 6:05am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-batteries-for-the-think-thanks-david/22940/11 "2021-12-02T06:05:28Z")

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I can get Svolt 156ah cells for about the same price. Minimum order 100 pcs.

[https://en.svolt.cn/products/info?id=1&type=11](https://en.svolt.cn/products/info?id=1&type=11)

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-batteries-for-the-think-thanks-david/22940/13 "2022-02-05T15:52:01Z")

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Split this topic on February 5, 2022, 3:52pm UTC

2 posts were split to a new topic: [Drop in lithium](https://community.electricforum.com/t/drop-in-lithium/23445)

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**Author:** ![brownmatthewp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@brownmatthewp](https://community.electricforum.com/u/brownmatthewp)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-batteries-for-the-think-thanks-david/22940/15 "2022-02-08T19:24:13Z")

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How much for the drop in kit?

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**Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/new-batteries-for-the-think-thanks-david/22940/17 "2022-02-08T19:28:19Z")

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> [@brownmatthewp](#):
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> How much for the drop in kit?

New 22s 94ah Samsung SDI battery with JK-bms. Last one. (SOLD)  
$2750

I have one 20s $2500 uses any 72v charger.

![22s sdi bms pics](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/c/c7650d18414ed8c72849f0e7c0ec877317bf44b0.jpeg)  
 ![sam 22s on shelf](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/d/dc43d360df8de6e966dcef7cafb8cbf4088df946.jpeg)

 ![new samsung jk 1](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/1/1c2fe0cda9b58168b26b41518618329db2e9e00d.jpeg)  
 ![New samsung jk](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/7/7107ed41abbeafa85043aeb042b8ad8fe5050f2e.jpeg)  
 ![sdi graph](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/5/524bff8fd736ebd83037ba2f2fdeac8bd9240238.gif)
