# Magic Magnet review thread "price increase" **URL:** \ **Category:** GEM Forum\ **Created:** [February 13, 2016, 10:39am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783 "2016-02-13T10:39:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Don\_Goll](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/don_goll/32/2997_2.png) [@Don\_Goll](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Don_Goll)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 2:17am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783/122 "2018-11-20T02:17:39Z")
Is the MM compatible with a D&D motor? ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 2:39am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783/123 "2018-11-20T02:39:22Z")
Yes, unless it has the 1/2 count magnet already. Does your speedometer read correctly? ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Goll](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/don_goll/32/2997_2.png) [@Don\_Goll](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Don_Goll)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 3:45am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783/124 "2018-11-20T03:45:17Z")
It does read correct ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 4:54am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783/125 "2018-11-20T04:54:30Z")
Then MM will work fine. ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783/126 "2019-04-08T02:30:08Z")
Ford Think mm harness in the works. ---
**Author:** ![Rob314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Rob314](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Rob314)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 2:48am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783/127 "2019-04-08T02:48:48Z")
Here are some pics of the connector for the Ford Think. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/3/349b80b01531c35a3209f9861230b2086c44a613.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 2:57am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783/128 "2019-04-08T02:57:31Z")
Thank you. I’ll send you the first think mm to test, when my parts come in. If you don’t want to wait., it only requires cutting the red, blk, and green wires. I have an aversion to rhino-gating factory wiring.😉 ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783/129 "2019-04-15T19:25:49Z")
![MVC-001F](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/3/30ab79e2553a0800765f026d52cfacaf6b75522a.jpeg) Think harness. ---
**Author:** ![dougl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b19c9b/32.png) [@dougl](https://community.electricforum.com/u/dougl)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783/130 "2019-04-16T02:30:54Z")
@Inwo, I know someone with a new Ford Think and he’s the type who would want to go faster. Let me know when you get it ready for sale and I’ll point him to you. ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 3:15am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783/131 "2019-04-16T03:15:03Z")
The standard mm will work, but needs to be hardwired. The plugs I have seem correct, but don’t fit well. ---
**Author:** ![doogie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@doogie](https://community.electricforum.com/u/doogie)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 11:54pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783/132 "2019-04-25T23:54:29Z")
David: Thinking about upgrading to my 2005 e2 with RFF 7.5 motor to a new GEM 2019 e2 w/ 6.5kW motor. In becoming spoiled for 35MPH performance over all these years, I will only consider the new purchase knowing I can at least match that performance. In looking for options, I noted your MM solution for DC motors. Any time frame on offering one for the new AC one? Alternatively, I’d consider the RFF speed kit - but not sure about the noise issue requiring a rubber isolation pads. Any input? Thanks, Greg ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 12:23am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783/133 "2019-04-26T00:23:13Z")
Sorry, I keep taking on new projects. The new MM for ac motors is pie in the sky for now. ---
**Author:** ![Rudyvogt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19adc/32.png) [@Rudyvogt](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Rudyvogt)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 3:37am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783/134 "2019-08-05T03:37:12Z")
Where can I get Magic Magnet for my 2002 Gem E4 ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 3:50am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783/135 "2019-08-05T03:50:08Z")
Send $125 with a note to. [https://paypal.me/INWO?locale.x=en\_US](https://paypal.me/INWO?locale.x=en_US) ---
**Author:** ![Rudyvogt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19adc/32.png) [@Rudyvogt](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Rudyvogt)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783/136 "2019-08-05T21:44:27Z")
OK I sent you the money through PayPal . What else can I do to make my 2002 Gem fast then 25 mph. Without buying a motor I would like my speed controller flashed where can I do that . I bought brand new batteries for the Gem . ---
**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 10:21pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783/137 "2019-08-05T22:21:06Z")
Reprogramming the controller won’t really get you any additional speed that the Magic Magnet couldn’t. It can change your motor performance profile a bit, like acceleration lag, etc. Your best bet for additional speed without buying a new motor is to add a 7th battery to bring the GEM up to 84 volts. With the stock motor, you should be able to hit low 30’s. I have hit 39-40 with the 7.5hp R4F motor on stock R12 tires and two of us in the vehicle (I have since set the governor at 35 though because that’s 6k rpm on the motor) Rodney does it with a lead battery: > [@84 Volt 2 Seater](https://community.electricforum.com/t/84-volt-2-seater/15470): > > A few weeks ago I stated that I intended to add a 7th battery to my 2002 two seater. This is the result. Three/four miles of extra range. Lots of acceleration. 42 MPH but limited to 38. The last 4 MPH EATS!!! range, True 22 miles range on turf mode flat ground.@ about 30 MPH TECHNICAL 2002 2 seater 8.9 gearbox 21" diameter fat tires on 10 inch rims (205 65 10) 7.5 RFF Black Motor (My Mods) INWO Spoof. (I asked INWO to make me a modified Spoof to allow 2 more volts thru to better balance contr… I did it with a custom lithium pack from @Inwo > [@LiFePo4 "7th battery" on a lead bottom GEM](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lifepo4-7th-battery-on-a-lead-bottom-gem/16591): > > This was an idea that Dave @Inwo came up with at some point in the past and I was the first ̶i̶d̶i̶o̶t̶ scientific pioneer willing to test it… … Adding an extra battery after the main contactor, so that only the high amperage terminals on the controller see the extra voltage. Translation, no voltage shunt needed for control power and that somehow changes how the controller sees things and the car performs and I’m gonna let Dave explain that part because he’s an electronics genius and I just f… We both achieve the same end, more speed and more range. We’re just wired up differently. Rodney’s costs a lot less, mine has a lot more convenience to it. If you are thinking about it, I can go into more detail. ---
**Author:** ![Rudyvogt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19adc/32.png) [@Rudyvogt](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Rudyvogt)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783/138 "2019-08-05T22:44:17Z")
Is there a diagram on how to reconnect the seventh battery . ---
**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 10:46pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783/139 "2019-08-05T22:46:34Z")
The way Dave and I did it, yes. It’s in my thread. Rodney’s way, I haven’t seen one, but I think he’s just literally hooking up an extra battery in series with the ones under the seat. ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 10:54pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783/140 "2019-08-05T22:54:08Z")
Either way works. The extra voltage needs to be considered if it’s in series all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Houseboater](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/old_houseboater/32/544_2.png) [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783/141 "2019-08-07T20:25:37Z")
jrjava For your information T1 and T2 controllers can be easily programmed for higher performance and speed. They dont need Magic Magnets. The T2 is my favorite controller and can be beefed uo to 500 amps. [Previous page](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783.md?page=6) [Next page](https://community.electricforum.com/t/magic-magnet-review-thread-price-increase/5783.md?page=8)