# Lithium Conversion **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [March 9, 2019, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588 "2019-03-09T14:42:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Roolax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Roolax](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Roolax)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/1 "2019-03-09T14:42:09Z")
Hi Micheal I’m looking to buy a 25s lithium system from Dave to put into my gem. I’m hoping to using the original charger without a BMS. Dave said that is what you are currently using. Any thoughts on using the stock charger with the lithium batteries? Do you have any other battery modifications (shunt balancer, etc.) that you’d suggest/not suggest? Thanks for your time and help! Tyler ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/2 "2019-03-09T14:53:02Z")
Michael just told me the gel setting works perfectly with 25s life. He’s in the middle of a charger project this morning. > **···** > > **From:** Roolax via Electric Forum > > **Sent:** Saturday, March 09, 2019 8:42 AM > > **To:** barbjb@acegroup.cc > > **Subject:** [Electric Forum] [PM] Lithium Conversion > > ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/f/f279ac8daf7b0faad00cb927ed220adef3ba4bf2.png "Roolax") > > [Roolax](https://community.electricforum.com/u/roolax) Junior Member > March 9 > Hi Micheal > > I’m looking to buy a 25s lithium system from Dave to put into my gem. I’m hoping to using the original charger without a BMS. Dave said that is what you are currently using. Any thoughts on using the stock charger with the lithium batteries? Do you have any other battery modifications (shunt balancer, etc.) that you’d suggest/not suggest? > > Thanks for your time and help! > > Tyler > > * * * > > [Visit Message](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/1) or reply to this email to respond to [Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/inwo), [kinghappy](https://community.electricforum.com/u/kinghappy), [Roolax](https://community.electricforum.com/u/roolax). > > To unsubscribe from these emails, [click here](https://community.electricforum.com/email/unsubscribe/98a7741eb12fcc3c74454937ff74b67c5bd19bfc73e7b53744e3dc57164fef5d). ---
**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/3 "2019-03-09T14:54:27Z")
My 2014 gem set on gel, charges my 25s lithium pack perfectly to 85.5 volts At this point I am not using a BMS or a shunt balancer. But in monitoring the cells to see if they’re needed ---
**Author:** ![Roolax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Roolax](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Roolax)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/4 "2019-03-09T14:59:00Z")
Awesome. Thanks for the info. I’m going to give that setup a try too so if you have any additional pointers I’d appreciate it. Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![Roolax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Roolax](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Roolax)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/5 "2019-03-13T17:51:42Z")
Hi Michael I’m curious, what kind of range are you getting on your 25s setup? ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/6 "2019-03-13T18:24:29Z")
He reports \>20miles. If it was me, I would try to squeeze in two sets. ---
**Author:** ![Roolax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Roolax](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Roolax)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/7 "2019-03-13T19:22:35Z")
20 should be perfect. I use it as a golf cart and only NEED about 15 miles. Ideally, I’d like more than 20 miles but that should do the trick…at least to start with. ---
**Author:** ![Roolax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Roolax](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Roolax)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 4:41pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/8 "2019-04-03T16:41:16Z")
Hi Dave I just found out I’m coming to the cities this weekend for the Final Four. Was gonna check with you to see if you had a pack ready to go? If so, can I pick it up Monday morning? Tyler ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/9 "2019-04-03T17:10:54Z")
5 x 5s modules? ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/10 "2019-04-03T17:20:20Z")
Hey, I just thought of something. How would you like a once in a lifetime chance to get a Chevy Bolt pack with out shipping cost? They are tough to ship. A lot more money, but 12kwh. 50-75 mile pack. $2500 Ask Grant about them. I’ve been looking for on the last 6 months and finally have one coming in. Plan was to leave it on the shelf until I get my LIFEPO4 sold, but I need to break it down for Grant and Michael. This was my first one. ![bolt%20back%20board](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/f/f67e7743766d7fdc39e9fe68b288656b76e207e5.jpeg) ![MVC-012F](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/4/468ec6c8cad489629f6a566d08f3725dcdefd4d2.JPG) ![MVC-011F](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/8/8a8343d4c6122b883fae69973c3a903f5e64c23a.JPG) ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 5:22pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/11 "2019-04-03T17:22:38Z")
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**Author:** ![Roolax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Roolax](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Roolax)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/12 "2019-04-03T17:28:08Z")
Let me think about the Bolt pack. I’m assuming that will fit under the seat just fine? Will it require a BMS? Or any other special equipment? ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/13 "2019-04-03T17:44:35Z")
Grant claims that it’s the easiest install he’s done. Yes, it requires a bms. Hope he chimes in… > [@Bolt Conversion #2](https://community.electricforum.com/t/bolt-conversion-2/14449): > > And it begins ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/d/d4f0dee1f70e09283486f625818dc3a1a4e65fb2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![grantwest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/grantwest/32/15_2.png) [@grantwest](https://community.electricforum.com/u/grantwest)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/14 "2019-04-03T18:14:35Z")
It’s a easy install. The Prep is what’s difficult . ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/c/cf76524fa845afa1e5a434e479510d202dffa8f7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/15 "2019-04-03T18:18:59Z")
Well this be the third time for me ? ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/16 "2019-04-03T18:44:13Z")
You just missed it. Grant got the last one. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/17 "2019-04-03T19:25:46Z")
Not again . Maybe someday ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/18 "2019-04-03T19:37:39Z")
Call him, he wants to rub it in… ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/19 "2019-04-04T16:31:28Z")
Bolt isn’t here. They sent the wrong part. > **···** > > **From:** Roolax via Electric Forum > > **Sent:** Wednesday, April 03, 2019 11:41 AM > > **To:** barbjb@acegroup.cc > > **Subject:** [Electric Forum] [PM] Lithium Conversion > > ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/f/f279ac8daf7b0faad00cb927ed220adef3ba4bf2.png "Roolax") > > [Roolax](https://community.electricforum.com/u/roolax) Junior Member > April 3 > Hi Dave > > I just found out I’m coming to the cities this weekend for the Final Four. Was gonna check with you to see if you had a pack ready to go? If so, can I pick it up Monday morning? > > Tyler > > * * * > > [Visit Message](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/8) or reply to this email to respond to [Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/inwo), [kinghappy](https://community.electricforum.com/u/kinghappy), [Roolax](https://community.electricforum.com/u/roolax). > > * * * > > #### In Reply To > > ![](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/45/1067_2.png "Inwo") > > [Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/inwo) > > ``` > March 13 > > ``` > > He reports \>20miles. If it was me, I would try to squeeze in two sets. > > * * * > > [Visit Message](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/8) or reply to this email to respond to [Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/inwo), [kinghappy](https://community.electricforum.com/u/kinghappy), [Roolax](https://community.electricforum.com/u/roolax). > > To unsubscribe from these emails, [click here](https://community.electricforum.com/email/unsubscribe/2e5ff97c82c7f86d2a230c560cf08c063222c733e0c31b4f1c6dbce9759f5504). ---
**Author:** ![Roolax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Roolax](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Roolax)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588/20 "2019-04-04T16:40:28Z")
Ok, no worries. I was leaning toward the 25s pack. That extra mileage from the bolt would be nice but it’s a luxury I don’t absolutely need. Do you have a 25s that is ready to go? [Next page](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lithium-conversion/15588.md?page=2)