# Lifepo4 drop in

**URL:** https://community.electricforum.com/t/lifepo4-drop-in/14560
**Category:** Uncategorized
**Created:** [September 17, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lifepo4-drop-in/14560 "2018-09-17T15:15:35Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author: ![stretchkart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@stretchkart](https://community.electricforum.com/u/stretchkart)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lifepo4-drop-in/14560/61 "2018-10-08T23:02:09Z")

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> [@Inwo](#):
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> No idea on charger, You could try one more or one less cell.  
> Be careful not to let it charge, as it will unbalance the 25cell string.

Okay, just tried that, no help. The charger is not a new one, came with the cart, looks to be in good condition.  
I took the cover off and looked at the solder joints on the “shunt” that some have repaired (youtube) but those 2 joints looked okay. What is your address I should send it to?

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### Author: ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2018, 11:43pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lifepo4-drop-in/14560/62 "2018-10-08T23:43:37Z")

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Dave Bissen  
100 Falls st  
Hokah, Mn. 55941

Po box 496

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### Author: ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lifepo4-drop-in/14560/63 "2018-10-08T23:54:01Z")

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I use 250w/mile as a guess. That comes out to 20 miles level ground 25mph.

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### Author: ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2018, 12:05am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lifepo4-drop-in/14560/64 "2018-10-09T00:05:55Z")

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Check temperature sensor. Some profiles won’t run without it. 10k from wht wire to B-.

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### Author: ![stretchkart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@stretchkart](https://community.electricforum.com/u/stretchkart)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2018, 2:47am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lifepo4-drop-in/14560/65 "2018-10-09T02:47:02Z")

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Oh, yeah, the white wire… its not connected to anything. There is just a spade connector on the end of the lead coming out of the charger. It shows about 11k ohms to black lead. The temp sensor is gone. How do I bypass it?

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### Author: ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lifepo4-drop-in/14560/66 "2018-10-09T03:28:48Z")

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Use a 10k resistor or 10k sensor. Possibly connect to b- directly, but doubt it.

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### Author: ![stretchkart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@stretchkart](https://community.electricforum.com/u/stretchkart)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lifepo4-drop-in/14560/67 "2018-10-09T13:57:14Z")

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> [@Inwo](#):
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> Use a 10k resistor or 10k sensor. Possibly connect to b- directly, but doubt it.

THANK YOU DAVE!  
I put a 10k resistor between white lead and B-… It started charging, even with 25 cells. (82.1v). Only charged for about 30 seconds then I shut it off. Will now install my onboard ampmeter.

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### Author: ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lifepo4-drop-in/14560/68 "2018-10-09T14:24:33Z")

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Let’er rip on 25s. May not even need the new charger.  
Good information for the next lfp 25s user.  
Actually the cell count could be changed to match stock charger. A true drop in swap.  
25s should be pretty close. 🙂  
I only picked 25 because they come in 5s and 10s modules.  
With a spoof 28s in not out of the question.  
#177 is 98.5 volts. Are you a hotrodder?

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### Author: ![stretchkart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@stretchkart](https://community.electricforum.com/u/stretchkart)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lifepo4-drop-in/14560/69 "2018-10-09T22:24:01Z")

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Im not really a hotrodder. Where I live there are a lot of cart paths between subdivisions and shopping centers. Summer is much more bare -able on a cart. The paths are not very wide, windy and somewhat hilly. Speed limit is 20mph. Which is sometimes toooo fast. I am intrigued with efficiency though.

One of the issues here with LSVs is permit like a golf cart or license like a car. I am able to do it like a golf cart. Which is about $10 per year, insurance is $15 per year. Can drive on 35mph posted roads but only 20 mph not 25. Cannot Cross 55mph roads from a 35 to 35. (have to use a tunnel) But is much cheaper than going the car route.

Forward facing seats for 4 was another goal. Before I found the Gem I was just about to stretch an old Ezgo.

I gave up on the shunt amp meter, seemed more complicated than it needs to be. Was debating whether to get a hall effect or shunt. Got the shunt thinking it might be more accurate. Will try a hall effect now. But wont be able to spend any time on it until next week.

Looking forward to getting this thing usable. I suspect the Lifepo battery pack is going to work out pretty good. I know a guy with a Think, he might be interested in Lifepos.

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### Author: ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2018, 10:43pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lifepo4-drop-in/14560/70 "2018-10-09T22:43:05Z")

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If it works as a no bms drop in replacement, there will be much interest.  
Please keep posting results. Non of my conversions get used enough to getting good data.

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### Author: ![stretchkart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@stretchkart](https://community.electricforum.com/u/stretchkart)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2018, 11:09pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/lifepo4-drop-in/14560/71 "2018-10-09T23:09:17Z")

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Will do. Sorry Im so slow…

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