# LED light on 2003 gem will not turn on

**URL:** <https://community.electricforum.com/t/led-light-on-2003-gem-will-not-turn-on/19270>\
**Category:** GEM Forum\
**Created:** [July 5, 2020, 12:21pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/led-light-on-2003-gem-will-not-turn-on/19270 "2020-07-05T12:21:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Adam333](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Adam333](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Adam333)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2020, 12:21pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/led-light-on-2003-gem-will-not-turn-on/19270/1 "2020-07-05T12:21:32Z")

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2003 gem with zivan charger. when i plug it in, it does not charge and no LED light comes on.

I manually charged batteries using the “alternative charging” technique.

thanks in advance.

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**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2020, 3:16pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/led-light-on-2003-gem-will-not-turn-on/19270/2 "2020-07-05T15:16:08Z")

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Do you hear the fan in the Zivan come on? If not, probably a blown fuse in the charger.

It’s a really weird size fuse, hard to find. Also, depending on when the charger was produced, you might need to do some soldering. Here’s an old thread with some info on fuses

> [@Zivan NG1 Fuse Information (if you are looking for them)](https://community.electricforum.com/t/zivan-ng1-fuse-information-if-you-are-looking-for-them/1690):
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> I just called about 50 places and i found a place that carries a good stock of them in Orange County ,CA. The weber fuse is made by Mersen now and the part number is 16035G. The SIBA fuse can be crossed to a Wickman fuse with part number 2312160 . I just thought i would share this info since i just spent like 5 hours on this lol…nobody knew crap until i found [Electrical & Electronic Fuses & Accessories : Fuseco Inc.](http://www.fusecoinc.com/)

Somewhere I read on here an old post from @GEMmechanic or @Old_Houseboater (I forget whom) where that stated they had about a 50% chance that after you change the fuse in a Zivan, that it won’t just blow it again immediately, indicating that it’s done for.

If you want change chargers, think about if you ever want to upgrade to lithium before you buy a charger - that way you get one that can work for both your current batteries and lithium packs.
