# LEAF Roper **URL:** \ **Category:** Introduce yourself\ **Created:** [July 25, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/leaf-roper/3664 "2013-07-25T17:08:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![roperld](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed8c4c/32.png) [@roperld](https://community.electricforum.com/u/roperld)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/leaf-roper/3664/1 "2013-07-25T17:08:17Z")
I leased a 2012 cayenne-red Nissan LEAF SL on 7 May 2012. I drove demos for ~600 miles before my LEAF came in 4 months after I ordered. LEAF Roper now has over 12,000 miles on it. I live in Blacksburg VA. I have a web page about LEAF Roper. About 98% of the time I charge it using a Schneider charging station in our garage. I converted the portable EVSE to handle 240-volts and 16 amps. I had 240-volts receptacles at both of my daughter’s houses, one in Roanoke VA ~36 miles away. Blacksburg currently has 9 level-2 public charging stations, 7 of which can be used at no cost. Roanoke has 2, 1 of which can be used at no cost, but the Mayor has told me that 2 more will soon be in place. I previously owned a 2005 Prius and converted it to a Hymotion plug-in in 2009. My granddaughter now drives it. I have a web page about the Prius conversion. Recently I converted our 2006 Toyota Highlander Hybrid to a Plug-In-Systems plug it. I have a web page about the Highlander conversion. Also, I have an electric-assisted bicycle. I have a web page about the bicycle. ---
**Author:** ![Editor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/49beb7/32.png) [@Editor](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Editor)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 1:22am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/leaf-roper/3664/2 "2013-07-26T01:22:36Z")
Hi Roperld Firstly, welcome to the forum. I would be interested to hear when you think EVs will go mass market as you obviously have a great interest in them. Regards, Mark ---
**Author:** ![roperld](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed8c4c/32.png) [@roperld](https://community.electricforum.com/u/roperld)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 5:24am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/leaf-roper/3664/3 "2013-07-26T05:24:22Z")
I forgot to mention that I drove a ZAP PK electric pickup from 2007 to 2010. I tried to convert it from lead-acid batteries to Li-ion batteries, but gave up and gave the ZAP away. I have a detailed web page about it. ---
**Author:** ![roperld](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed8c4c/32.png) [@roperld](https://community.electricforum.com/u/roperld)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 6:22am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/leaf-roper/3664/4 "2013-07-26T06:22:48Z")
It depends on how one defines “mass market”. If the current market penetration of hybrids is the definition, given that plug-ins (PIs) are moving into the market about twice as fast as hybrids did, I make the following estimate: It has taken about a dozen years for hybrids to get where they are now, so it should take about 6 years for PIs to get to that point. However, the current fast rise in the price of oil (from ~$95 to ~$105 in the last month), the new 54.5 mpg regulation and the rapid progress in battery and EV technology, it might occur less than 6 years. I am looking forward to the options I will have in 2015 when my LEAF lease is up. ---
**Author:** ![Editor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/49beb7/32.png) [@Editor](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Editor)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 2:38pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/leaf-roper/3664/5 "2013-07-26T14:38:49Z")
Hi Roperld You might find the following article and graph of interest:- [US Department of Energy compares EV sales to hybrids](http://www.electricforum.com/electric-cars/us-department-of-energy-compares-ev-sales-to-hybrids.html) It shows the relative sales position of EVs and Hybrids in their early years. Regards, Mark ---
**Author:** ![roperld](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed8c4c/32.png) [@roperld](https://community.electricforum.com/u/roperld)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 5:09pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/leaf-roper/3664/6 "2013-07-26T17:09:29Z")
Yes, that curve is the basis for my statement that PEV sales are about twice hybrid sales were during their early years.