# Is the Oversight Effective?

**URL:** <https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477>\
**Category:** GEM Forum\
**Created:** [November 27, 2022, 6:33am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477 "2022-11-27T06:33:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Garthhh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/garthhh/32/13053_2.png) [@Garthhh](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Garthhh)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 6:33am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477/1 "2022-11-27T06:33:19Z")

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Anyone ever gotten a ticket for Driving a GEM on a road with a speed limit higher than 35?  
What about for driving over 25?

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**Author:** ![js9354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8baadc/32.png) [@js9354](https://community.electricforum.com/u/js9354)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477/2 "2022-11-27T18:04:29Z")

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I am guessing it’s never happened. There are many on this forum that get a thrill out of 35+ mph in a Gem. I just don’t get it. Is it the “wind blowing through their hair” or testing the boundaries of “a vehicle that is designed for 25 mph”? Burning Rubber? Popping Wheelies? Or just “living on the edge” at 40 mph bumping, swaying motor screaming, rattling down the road? I can think of a number of other vehicles that would give more thrill comfortably at higher speeds. In SoCal the Gem is just a way to get downtown, or to the beach. Nothing more. Call me “over the hill”.

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**Author:** ![MikeKC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 6:32pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477/3 "2022-11-27T18:32:58Z")

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@js9354 - your old… 🤣

In my case it is testing the boundaries and also trying to make something better than it was before.

That is why we are all different people - if you want to go 25mph go 25, if you want to go 50mph, go 50. 🙂

@Garthhh - answering your original question, I personally have not heard of anyone getting a ticket in a LSV. I personally have been eye to eye with a couple dozen officers on the road, at stop lights, intersections. If they look twice it because they curious about the GEM, not what the GEM is doing.

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**Author:** ![Garthhh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/garthhh/32/13053_2.png) [@Garthhh](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Garthhh)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 10:30pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477/4 "2022-11-27T22:30:44Z")

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I understand the hot rod mentality  
Performance mods on GEM’s have pretty good bang for the buck  
As a bonus none involve loud pipes  
I’m not in a hurry to get something as tall & narrow as a GEM going 50, which is pretty much a jeep with a lift & a big block

I’m more interested in extended range

I have motorcycles to satisfy the need for speed

Driving the stock GEM is like pulling a big trailer in the mountains, ya pull over when the line behind gets too long

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**Author:** ![Erniea15](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/erniea15/32/10887_2.png) [@Erniea15](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Erniea15)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 10:45pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477/5 "2022-11-27T22:45:33Z")

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I’ve been on a 40/45 mph road with cops on it and they didn’t bat an eye.

I’ve got mine hot-rodded to top out in the lower 50s… but it’s not that I really want to go that fast in it.

1. I personally think it’s more dangerous going 25mph in a 35. I got a lot of 1 finger salutes and some language not appropriate for my kids.

2. I’ve got some pretty big hills to contend with. I wanted the umph to be able to climb while maintaining speed.

My old 2000 going 40+ was terrifying. My 2016 going 40, it drives just like a car.

> [@Garthhh](#):
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> I’m more interested in extended range

I say - why not have both? 🙂 Just because it CAN go 50mph doesn’t mean you _have_ to. I’m not sure I’ve found the top end on any of my regular cars.

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**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 1:05am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477/6 "2022-11-30T01:05:31Z")

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I asked my buddy who is a lieutenant with the police department. His comment was if your obeying the speed limit his guys probably don’t care. Then said he wouldn’t even know how to write a ticket for a gem doing 35 in a 40 zone. It’s not a speeding ticket so didn’t know what the violation number would even be. Though it could be a fix it ticket. My Gem will do mid 40’s but i don’t prefer going that fast, mid 30’s is enjoyable(2014). 25mph is pain full and I would sell my Gem if that is all it could do.

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**Author:** ![Garthhh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/garthhh/32/13053_2.png) [@Garthhh](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Garthhh)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477/7 "2022-11-30T20:04:35Z")

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I suppose 25 in a GEM where the speed limit is 45 would be a similar violation to roads marked no trucks, if your driving a delivery truck

I doubt I’ll ever get scolded for having the beacon on all the time

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**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 1:44am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477/8 "2022-12-01T01:44:44Z")

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What’s the beacon for?

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**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 2:05am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477/9 "2022-12-01T02:05:39Z")

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> [@LithiumGods](#):
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> What’s the beacon for

Attracting cops.

(Filler to 20)

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**Author:** ![dougl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b19c9b/32.png) [@dougl](https://community.electricforum.com/u/dougl)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 2:26am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477/10 "2022-12-01T02:26:36Z")

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> [@JarJarJava](#):
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> Attracting cops.

To show them his official Herschel Walker badge.

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**Author:** ![Garthhh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/garthhh/32/13053_2.png) [@Garthhh](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Garthhh)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 2:54am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477/11 "2022-12-01T02:54:11Z")

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Be seen & not get run over  
I’m probably assumed to be a city or university worker…

To enhance the effect I may get this turned into a 18" sticker & put one on each door

 ![2006_0716tempic10040](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/a/a95bfb6a9ed9e174ad7df05d6b7264dfb1021b5e.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 12:33pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477/12 "2022-12-01T12:33:51Z")

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I like this cat. He’s pretty cool… for being the putz constantly holding up traffic.

🤣

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**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 1:42pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477/13 "2022-12-01T13:42:32Z")

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Oh I get it. When you are only going 25mph you run the risk of getting run over. So you put a beacon on to lower risk. Another reason to make your Gem go faster, so you can’t get run over. Now as a faster Gem you can run over the slower Gems with the funny lights on top. It is better to be the lion than the lamb, Lol. @Garthhh , Love that sticker!

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**Author:** ![Garthhh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/garthhh/32/13053_2.png) [@Garthhh](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Garthhh)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 12:47am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477/14 "2022-12-02T00:47:18Z")

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Oh Look, I’ve struck oil  
Go to any motorhead forum start talking about oil, fireworks will ensue.  
Maybe a twofer, go to a scooter forum & ask what size scooter to buy, uh bigger is always better will have plenty of supporters.  
Black bikes. clothes & helmets is asking for near misses, is pretty fun  
Loud Pipes Save Lives, right?

Here,  
I could do a combo trigger question  
What kind of gearbox oil do I need for a 20hp motor, bonus points if I work in how there are no electric engines, it’s a motor!

On most roads people will lose their shyt if you are merely doing the speed limit, so what?  
The world keep turning, people get to their destination a few seconds later  
Is there any data supporting the notion that going faster is safer?  
Plenty of opinion, endless hypotheticals, actual data for roads other than freeways, not so much…

The picture is from a sweatshirt, that I quit wearing after 9/11

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**Author:** ![Monkeyron](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/monkeyron/32/6634_2.png) [@Monkeyron](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Monkeyron)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 1:30am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477/15 "2022-12-02T01:30:47Z")

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I’m 68 and still love pulling 3rd gear wheelies in my Funco Hi-5 Sandcar.  
So old fartisim hasn’t slowed me too much.

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**Author:** ![Garthhh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/garthhh/32/13053_2.png) [@Garthhh](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Garthhh)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 6:23am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477/16 "2022-12-02T06:23:01Z")

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Malicious Compliance  
My farts aren’t old I make new ones on a shockingly regular basis

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**Author:** ![Garthhh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/garthhh/32/13053_2.png) [@Garthhh](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Garthhh)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 4:40pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477/17 "2023-05-02T16:40:41Z")

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After a few months, I’ve had very few Rage Passes  
Lots of pointing, smiling, waving…  
I never did install the magic magnet, 25 mph is fine  
I act like I’m pulling a trailer & pull over if more than a couple of cars are following  
I’ve been on more than a few roads with higher speed limits, which don’t have alternatives [south Virginia]  
Funny thing is when I take routes with 35 mph speed limits, my travel time is faster as there aren’t as many lights

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**Author:** ![EVBenny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/51bf81/32.png) [@EVBenny](https://community.electricforum.com/u/EVBenny)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 3:40am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477/18 "2025-11-27T03:40:02Z")

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I just did today. My 2008 gem has great brakes and suspension and I feel safe going 45 in it.

I just put in the navitas motor because my r4f motor couldn’t handle all the hills between my house and the beach.

I took it on a test drive and part of the route was up a hill on a on a 45 mph street. I got unlucky I guess, but the cop definitely wrote me a ticket for taking it on that road.

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**Author:** ![Garthhh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/garthhh/32/13053_2.png) [@Garthhh](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Garthhh)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 5:22am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477/19 "2025-12-05T05:22:59Z")

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Sorry to hear that O:

After some years driving around town, I have yet to get pulled over.  
To be fair I have the stake side bed w/safety triangle, pipe rack & beacon. A passing imitation of a city, university or casino worker.  
Early on I asked Reno PD about driving a regular golfcart around town, the reply was no problem as long as it had lights & seatbelts.

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**Author:** ![pm9dcr2001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f19dbf/32.png) [@pm9dcr2001](https://community.electricforum.com/u/pm9dcr2001)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 2:56pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/is-the-oversight-effective/25477/20 "2025-12-30T14:56:51Z")

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FWIW - my 35mph need in my 2021 E4 is to keep up with traffic on a 3/4 mile stretch to the grocery store. Could I do 25mph? Sure, and in that 3/4 mile stretch I would have an F250 duely 72 inchs from my rear bumper with 17 cars behind her.

At least doing 35, I’m going as fast as the law allows on that particular piece of asphalt.
