# I have a 403TB1 controller and would like to reprogram the controller

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**Created:** [July 7, 2019, 8:49am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/i-have-a-403tb1-controller-and-would-like-to-reprogram-the-controller/16502 "2019-07-07T08:49:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/i-have-a-403tb1-controller-and-would-like-to-reprogram-the-controller/16502/21 "2019-07-09T22:32:56Z")

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What batteries?  
Is bms warm?

I need your address.

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**Author:** ![BadBrad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47774/32.png) [@BadBrad](https://community.electricforum.com/u/BadBrad)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 10:34pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/i-have-a-403tb1-controller-and-would-like-to-reprogram-the-controller/16502/22 "2019-07-09T22:34:59Z")

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2014 Chevy Volt.  
bms is warm.  
Not sure if you remember but you have helped me out a lot before.

2408 East Meadow Mist Way  
St.George, Ut 84790

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**Author:** ![BadBrad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47774/32.png) [@BadBrad](https://community.electricforum.com/u/BadBrad)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 10:41pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/i-have-a-403tb1-controller-and-would-like-to-reprogram-the-controller/16502/23 "2019-07-09T22:41:35Z")

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![My%20battery%20layout](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/3/3997f4d1b80405275e0ea4cff01b986d829dbb58.jpeg)  
I’m not sure if the balance got messed up from my last BMS but it is part of the left side that is high.

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 10:43pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/i-have-a-403tb1-controller-and-would-like-to-reprogram-the-controller/16502/24 "2019-07-09T22:43:34Z")

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Yes, but details fade.  
Bms will take weeks to balance that much. It needs to drain 8 cells.  
Bms uses power from the bottom 16s keeping them low if not balancing. (lcd off)  
Charge the first 16 or put a load on the top 8 to help bms catch up…

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**Author:** ![BadBrad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47774/32.png) [@BadBrad](https://community.electricforum.com/u/BadBrad)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 11:11pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/i-have-a-403tb1-controller-and-would-like-to-reprogram-the-controller/16502/25 "2019-07-09T23:11:00Z")

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Sounds good.  
Do the settings look good on the BMS? Any sugested changes?  
Thanks

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 11:28pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/i-have-a-403tb1-controller-and-would-like-to-reprogram-the-controller/16502/26 "2019-07-09T23:28:12Z")

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Might set the lcd to lowest setting=“always on” to keep it balancing.

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**Author:** ![BadBrad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47774/32.png) [@BadBrad](https://community.electricforum.com/u/BadBrad)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 11:51pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/i-have-a-403tb1-controller-and-would-like-to-reprogram-the-controller/16502/27 "2019-07-09T23:51:10Z")

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Ok Sounds good. I’ll do that.

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 12:03am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/i-have-a-403tb1-controller-and-would-like-to-reprogram-the-controller/16502/28 "2019-07-10T00:03:51Z")

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It may not apply to new versions. At one time, only balanced when lcd on.

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**Author:** ![BadBrad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47774/32.png) [@BadBrad](https://community.electricforum.com/u/BadBrad)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:47am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/i-have-a-403tb1-controller-and-would-like-to-reprogram-the-controller/16502/29 "2019-07-10T01:47:49Z")

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I learned something new today.  
Don’t try to charge a set of batteries with the set of batteries. 🙂

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**Author:** ![BadBrad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47774/32.png) [@BadBrad](https://community.electricforum.com/u/BadBrad)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/i-have-a-403tb1-controller-and-would-like-to-reprogram-the-controller/16502/30 "2019-07-10T02:11:23Z")

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Need some advise. What is the best way to drain 8 cells that are wired in parellel by my BMS to another 8 cells that are both in packs of 12 that are wired in parellel? I have a few RC Lipo chargers that can load those cells and drain them to a storage state. I’m thinking remove the BMS and drain them 4 cells at a time. Any sugestions?

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:31am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/i-have-a-403tb1-controller-and-would-like-to-reprogram-the-controller/16502/31 "2019-07-10T02:31:29Z")

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What ever load you can find. One of my favorite is bi-pin lamps. Clip one across each cell you want to drain.  
Or up to 3 cells at a time using 12v lamps.  
No need to remove bms. Use it to monitor process.  
If it’s simpler, wire 4 large 12v lamps in series across all 8 high cells. 1157 work too.  
Balance leads should handle 2 amps.

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/i-have-a-403tb1-controller-and-would-like-to-reprogram-the-controller/16502/32 "2019-07-10T13:50:04Z")

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I’m testing a charger with a 1p24s volt pack. It was delta-volts was 240mv last night.  
 ![MVC-001F](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/1/11ca08d74ec4973c73fb60826e14a495025a4660.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/i-have-a-403tb1-controller-and-would-like-to-reprogram-the-controller/16502/33 "2019-07-10T13:55:42Z")

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A little help with cell 24.  
 ![MVC-002F](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/5/5e0eb34c676f9ab6ccb8f8b3c4de8ee7b9efba83.jpeg) ![MVC-003F](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/d/d07b124a0ab8eaf7635d2de70177961fdb786dbb.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/i-have-a-403tb1-controller-and-would-like-to-reprogram-the-controller/16502/34 "2019-07-12T19:26:47Z")

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Thanks for the idea with the lights. I was way over thinking it. It did take a couple of days but I got them much closer. What is a good mv difference to aim for?  
 ![IMG_6038](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/4/4c9abbd8afa36ac943ad5a7e1f81c4b632e86f22.jpeg) ![IMG_6040](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/6/60a1452569fef0e79d07c9fb415927e9f5d47e10.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 10:26pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/i-have-a-403tb1-controller-and-would-like-to-reprogram-the-controller/16502/35 "2019-07-12T22:26:55Z")

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20mv is good. But it makes little difference. If battery fully charges with no cell over 4.15, call it good.  
The one I pictured the other day is still balancing 24/7.  
58mv today.

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**Author:** ![BadBrad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47774/32.png) [@BadBrad](https://community.electricforum.com/u/BadBrad)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/i-have-a-403tb1-controller-and-would-like-to-reprogram-the-controller/16502/36 "2019-07-13T20:56:47Z")

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I recieved the programmer and it looks like a little bolt hitched a ride. Was this on accident or on purpose.  
Thanks

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/i-have-a-403tb1-controller-and-would-like-to-reprogram-the-controller/16502/37 "2019-07-13T21:03:40Z")

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Good question. Kind of a mess here.

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**Author:** ![BadBrad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47774/32.png) [@BadBrad](https://community.electricforum.com/u/BadBrad)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 6:58am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/i-have-a-403tb1-controller-and-would-like-to-reprogram-the-controller/16502/38 "2019-07-14T06:58:17Z")

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Sounds like my office  
.I have been reading up on the programming and this is what I have.  
2008 2 seater  
7hp motor. Are these all the same?  
21" tires  
and 100volt battery system.  
I have changed 21 to 255 but haven’t been able to try it out yet.  
Any other changes you guys would suggest. I want it to last at least a few years 🙂  
Mainly flat area but would like to not feel like a target in the forty miles an hour zones.

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**Author:** ![BadBrad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47774/32.png) [@BadBrad](https://community.electricforum.com/u/BadBrad)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 7:17am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/i-have-a-403tb1-controller-and-would-like-to-reprogram-the-controller/16502/39 "2019-07-14T07:17:11Z")

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Looks like my 7hp is only 4100 RPM  
Does it overheat when you get over the 4100 RPM.  
I noticed the GEM that this got taken out of had a shroud that went around the motor. It looked like it was set up to get more air to it.  
Thanks again you guys for your help.

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