# How to Make Gem E6 Faster than 25mph?

**URL:** <https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301>\
**Category:** GEM Forum\
**Created:** [April 20, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301 "2017-04-20T19:08:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MikeKC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 1:21am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301/61 "2020-04-03T01:21:27Z")

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> [@RS\_E6](#):
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> Have you guys done any tests with AC motors on stock batteries? Would be awesome if you can hit 40+ regardless of gearing, tires and battery setup.

I have not, I was about to but then a guy wanted all my AC parts so out the door it went before I could test on lead.

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**Author:** ![RS\_E6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/rs_e6/32/12308_2.png) [@RS\_E6](https://community.electricforum.com/u/RS_E6)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 3:45am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301/62 "2020-04-03T03:45:19Z")

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> [@Inwo](#):
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> An 8kw a.c. motor and a used sevcon controller isn’t much more $$ than you could get out of a d&d motor and the old t4 controller.

I still have to sell my green cells after the bolt upgrade before I accumulate more spare parts to sell off. 🙂

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**Author:** ![cbepps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@cbepps](https://community.electricforum.com/u/cbepps)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2020, 3:50am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301/63 "2020-04-04T03:50:38Z")

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I’m open to being a guinea pig here on an e6. My next upgrades were motor and gearbox in addition to the lithium change I have in flight with @LithiumGods - might as well make some Additional changes ahead of summer. Let me know what you have in mind. I’m game.

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2020, 11:44am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301/64 "2020-04-04T11:44:30Z")

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That would be great. @LithiumGods may have interest.  
I will pm some prices, but we are kind of at the mercy of @MikeKC, as he has actually done a classic Gem.  
As far as the parts go, a motor, controller, adapter pcb, and phase cables to motor should be all you need.  
Mike may build a board for someone. It’s labor intensive, and I would need $250 for it.  
The E6 may or may not be a good candidate for the low cost S4 controller.  
I believe it is fine, but that’s one of the things we need to find out.  
If using the smaller controller, it might be best to lighten the lead load first.

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**Author:** ![MikeKC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301/65 "2020-04-04T14:18:58Z")

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> [@Inwo](#):
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> I will pm some prices, but we are kind of at the mercy of @MikeKC, as he has actually done a classic Gem.

I am happy to assist in any way needed. I have done three classic’s so far. I would even fly down and help for a couple days if the COR-19 goes away before you do it. But even so, it’s not very hard at all especially with the PCB that Dave developed, basically plug and play.  
Using a Size4 in and E4 I think could work. The E6 original T4 controller was only 350 amps so there should be no reason the Size 4 could not work now that we have a really good config file for it (Zone).  
@cbepps - I think you would love it, you can run 8K RPM’s all day and the motor just gets warm.  
@LithiumGods - you can call or PM me for details

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**Author:** ![ca6772738758](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@ca6772738758](https://community.electricforum.com/u/ca6772738758)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301/66 "2020-07-01T21:14:41Z")

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INMO are the MM magnet still available how much and how to get ASAP Lee

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 9:21pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301/67 "2020-07-01T21:21:31Z")

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$125 with a note.

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> Go to paypal.me/INWO and type in the amount. Since it’s PayPal, it's easy and secure. Don’t have a PayPal account? No worries.

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**Author:** ![ca6772738758](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@ca6772738758](https://community.electricforum.com/u/ca6772738758)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301/68 "2020-07-01T21:34:02Z")

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Ok I will need at least three and are they adjustable

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301/69 "2020-07-01T22:47:19Z")

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Yes they are.  
tnx  
Dave

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**Author:** ![ca6772738758](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@ca6772738758](https://community.electricforum.com/u/ca6772738758)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301/70 "2020-07-01T23:14:22Z")

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They must not weigh much so if I get them overnight can you do that

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**Author:** ![ca6772738758](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@ca6772738758](https://community.electricforum.com/u/ca6772738758)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 11:23pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301/71 "2020-07-01T23:23:04Z")

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Another question you might help me with when I put the extra battery in line on an AGM E6 would I put it at the very end

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**Author:** ![ca6772738758](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@ca6772738758](https://community.electricforum.com/u/ca6772738758)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 11:36pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301/72 "2020-07-01T23:36:48Z")

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I guess I should ask you on those three do you still have some in stock

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**Author:** ![Harpwailer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7993a0/32.png) [@Harpwailer](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Harpwailer)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301/73 "2020-07-03T01:05:29Z")

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I googled Dave’s Magic Magnet and there it was. $79.00

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301/74 "2020-07-03T01:54:50Z")

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> [@Harpwailer](#):
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> googled Dave’s Magic Magnet and there it was. $79.00

Back in the prototyping days.  
Soon to be $150 😉

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**Author:** ![Red1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Red1](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Red1)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 3:27pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301/75 "2020-07-29T15:27:52Z")

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Hello, Will Dave’s MM work on a 2006 E4 GEM ?

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**Author:** ![Monkeyron](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/monkeyron/32/6634_2.png) [@Monkeyron](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Monkeyron)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301/76 "2020-08-03T18:51:19Z")

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Yes it will work on this model

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**Author:** ![Red1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Red1](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Red1)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 2:17am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301/77 "2020-08-04T02:17:49Z")

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Sir, Would you recommend the Dave’s Magic Magnet or the Ride 4 Fun speed module. Thanks and pls let know.

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**Author:** ![Monkeyron](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/monkeyron/32/6634_2.png) [@Monkeyron](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Monkeyron)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301/78 "2020-08-04T02:45:12Z")

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I would ask Dave. @Inwo

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**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:33am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301/79 "2020-08-04T03:33:02Z")

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they are the same . Dave makes them for others

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**Author:** ![Mustang2020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mustang2020](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Mustang2020)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 1:12am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/how-to-make-gem-e6-faster-than-25mph/12301/80 "2020-08-12T01:12:17Z")

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I have 48 volt AC motor if you need one.

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