# HELP 2010 e4 model dies out fast **URL:** \ **Category:** GEM Forum\ **Created:** [June 28, 2021, 9:40pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771 "2021-06-28T21:40:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![gofast67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gofast67](https://community.electricforum.com/u/gofast67)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771/62 "2021-07-12T16:01:53Z")
Still does same thing ---
**Author:** ![gofast67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gofast67](https://community.electricforum.com/u/gofast67)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 4:02pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771/63 "2021-07-12T16:02:27Z")
Installed it, still does same thing. ---
**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771/64 "2021-07-12T16:20:47Z")
WTH?!?!?!? Wow… I need to review this thread again. Do you have a meter? Did you ever take any throttle voltage readings? Are you not comfortable with doing such? ---
**Author:** ![gofast67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gofast67](https://community.electricforum.com/u/gofast67)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771/65 "2021-07-12T17:11:11Z")
Yes sir, I have a meter. I will be back to my place around 230. I am very comfortable doing the test as long as I know the wiring ---
**Author:** ![gofast67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gofast67](https://community.electricforum.com/u/gofast67)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 6:11pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771/66 "2021-07-12T18:11:45Z")
I haven’t tested the pedal yet. I just need to know the wires I’m looking for so I can probe them. ---
**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 7:10pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771/67 "2021-07-12T19:10:33Z")
I’m confused. What do you need? Back up around post 13 you have a diagram and a description list of what to expect. Post 23 you have a pin out numbers for the 23 pin controller plug. To orient yourself - Pins 1 & 2 are orange wires. Post 24 you have another diagram that has wire colors (if this matches your car) and a pin out arrangement for the pedal plug if you wanted to test it there. ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771/68 "2021-07-12T21:37:53Z")
> [@AssyRequired](#): > > I thought it might be the contactor also. Are you sure it’s not? Is he testing voltage at controller? ---
**Author:** ![MikeKC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771/69 "2021-07-12T22:20:05Z")
Well Damn… Sorry, but I think it was worth the try. ---
**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 1:14am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771/70 "2021-07-13T01:14:36Z")
We have escalated this to phone. I will have him go back and double check a few things again. I will post findings. There mist be something I am missing. If anyone has any other thoughts feel free to jump in on the fun! ---
**Author:** ![dougl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b19c9b/32.png) [@dougl](https://community.electricforum.com/u/dougl)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771/71 "2021-07-13T01:17:55Z")
I was going to start recommending bipassing things to try and isolate where the problem is residing. ---
**Author:** ![gofast67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gofast67](https://community.electricforum.com/u/gofast67)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771/72 "2021-07-13T01:25:39Z")
It is kicking my butt to say the least lol ---
**Author:** ![gofast67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gofast67](https://community.electricforum.com/u/gofast67)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771/73 "2021-07-13T19:00:55Z")
Please tell me how to test the contactor correctly. I can tell you that I have full voltage at the controller when it shuts down. ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771/74 "2021-07-13T19:48:56Z")
I think you are doing it correctly. Just test from the B- to the B+ right on the controller. If that is ok, the only thing controlling speed is controller, turtle mode, and throttle. Everything else should throw a code. Throttle sends 1v to about 4v to controller pin 7 requesting torque. At WOT it should be steady \>3.5v. After car stops, you can check it in neutral. Should change steadily with application of throttle. I have not studied the whole thread. If car only slows down, not stops, test pin 4 (forward) and pin 6 (turf and turtle). I believe car will lock in high speed by clipping pin 6. (from memory) This is all stuff you’ve done, but all I got. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![gofast67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gofast67](https://community.electricforum.com/u/gofast67)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771/75 "2021-07-13T22:03:51Z")
Yes I have around pack voltage at the controller when pedal is pressed. It doesn’t drop out when car slows down to a gradual stop. I just want this thing fixed. Should I just order a pedal assembly or what. How do I ck If motor is functioning properly? I just got it back from a fresh up. Yet it was doing this before I sent motor out. ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:11pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771/76 "2021-07-13T22:11:20Z")
I can send a pedal for testing. No idea what’s going on. If you have voltage at p7, that’s all you need from the throttle. If switch was bad it would fault. Wrench icon and a number. ---
**Author:** ![gofast67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gofast67](https://community.electricforum.com/u/gofast67)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:40pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771/77 "2021-07-13T22:40:53Z")
Ok, I happen to have a 2 seater that came to me for batteries. So I decided I would borrow the pedal assy. BINGO, it finally runs right. That you everyone for all your help. You have no idea how much I appreciate all the help. Yes I will need a pedal, and I am getting a link for a pedal assy through here. ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 11:11pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771/78 "2021-07-13T23:11:43Z")
> [@gofast67](#): > > Yes I will need a pedal, a I have new throttle boxes for $240 delivered. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/5/55128123aecfc80e2ee3666fecbb6c92623444d3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![gofast67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gofast67](https://community.electricforum.com/u/gofast67)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 11:05pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771/79 "2021-07-15T23:05:50Z")
I will definitely need one. This is bolt in and go correct? ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2021, 2:31am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771/80 "2021-07-16T02:31:05Z")
It’s the new pot box on the right. You just need to re-use your pedal. (Left) ---
**Author:** ![gofast67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gofast67](https://community.electricforum.com/u/gofast67)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2021, 3:01am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771/81 "2021-07-17T03:01:24Z")
Ok, I definitely need one. How do we proceed? [Previous page](https://community.electricforum.com/t/help-2010-e4-model-dies-out-fast/21771.md?page=3)