# Gem year differences

**URL:** <https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-year-differences/16471>\
**Category:** GEM Forum\
**Created:** [July 3, 2019, 9:25pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-year-differences/16471 "2019-07-03T21:25:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 9:25pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-year-differences/16471/1 "2019-07-03T21:25:30Z")

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Thought I would put together a Spread sheet that shows some of the differences in Gem years . We can add to it until complete . I am setting it up in Google sheets so anyone can access it . will try and figure out how to show it here . I’m not great with this posting stuff .

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/1/1834c9ae440203fafe73fd12de8a49adcf17440b.png)

here is a link to the google spreadsheet

> **[Gem years](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwGln7DtM1i1DugLDSQvc-uTxTSiLqA9tDwsTxBXv3M/edit?usp=sharing)**
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> Sheet1
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> year,model,gear ratio,motor,brakes,battery location,steering 1-10,charger,ride quality,other,comments
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> 2013,e4,10.35,advance7hp,updated disc,3 rear seat , 2 rear,9,Dq w/converter,10,i hood latch,upgraded frame, suspension,brakes . no ram...

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**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-year-differences/16471/2 "2019-07-03T21:40:15Z")

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Great idea.

Maybe add a column for the controller model?

Would you like community input on the various years/models from those who own them?

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 10:20pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-year-differences/16471/3 "2019-07-03T22:20:51Z")

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Wiki has a timeline that might help you.

> **[Global Electric Motorcars | History](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Electric_Motorcars#History)**
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> The company was founded in 1992 by a team of ex-General Motors engineers from Livonia, Michigan, under the name Trans2.
> The company was purchased by a group of North Dakota investors and was moved to Fargo, North Dakota. Global Electric Motorcars manufactured its first vehicle in April 1998, a 48-volt GEM car that accommodated two passengers and had a top speed of 20 mph (32 km/h). Less than two months later, a significant breakthrough occurred in the market as the National Highway Traffic Safet...

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**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 3:16am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-year-differences/16471/4 "2019-07-04T03:16:48Z")

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added controller type . I know a lot of the differences . I will add them in in the next week when i have some time .

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**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-year-differences/16471/5 "2019-07-04T20:08:33Z")

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Got it mostly complete for e4’s .There is some info I dont have so maybe others can let me know.

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/8/8e65f67c117d7bd648384a2031cf4401512d5ba5.png)

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-year-differences/16471/6 "2019-07-04T20:48:23Z")

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Throttle type change?  
48v-72v-48v ac motor  
DQCP non programable dq, or above is DQCP(black dot), DQCT, DQDA etc.  
My 2010 EL has DCI charger (dc-dc)  
2008 E4 was standard DQ  
2009 ?

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**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-year-differences/16471/7 "2019-07-04T21:15:05Z")

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Thanks, nice reference.

2000-2001: e825, 3.5hp, 8.9 gears. drum brakes, schott charger, T1 controller. Steering, battery and suspension are the same as the 2002-2004. Not sure precisely when change from Schott charger happened, if it was when the 02 model year started or in late 01.

2002-2004 are e825 also - number of seats was by the name following the model. “longback” truck had different rear suspension of 2 coil overs per side

Do you recall when the front suspension changed?
