# Gem won't go into reverse

**URL:** https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-wont-go-into-reverse/6022
**Category:** GEM Forum
**Created:** [May 8, 2016, 7:32am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-wont-go-into-reverse/6022 "2016-05-08T07:32:58Z")
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### Author: ![glassact](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a3d4f5/32.png) [@glassact](https://community.electricforum.com/u/glassact)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2016, 7:32am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-wont-go-into-reverse/6022/1 "2016-05-08T07:32:58Z")

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Folks -  
I have a GEM E2 with a T3 controller. The aftermarket motor on the car recently burned up, requiring me to replace it with the original 5hp GE motor. The car now runs fine in forward gear,but gives a 66 error code immediately upon any attempt to back up. Does anyone have any idea what might be the problem, and how it might be repaired?  
Thanks in advance - Ed

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### Author: ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2016, 9:37am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-wont-go-into-reverse/6022/2 "2016-05-08T09:37:12Z")

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The car reverses by reversing the field.

Control uses a separate set of transistors for forward and reverse.

IMO one or both of the rev. field transistors are shorted.

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### Author: ![glassact](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a3d4f5/32.png) [@glassact](https://community.electricforum.com/u/glassact)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2016, 9:55am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-wont-go-into-reverse/6022/3 "2016-05-08T09:55:33Z")

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That was my guess. Where are the field transistors located, and are they easily replaced? If not -does the controller need a rebuild?  
Best - Ed

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### Author: ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2016, 10:18am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-wont-go-into-reverse/6022/4 "2016-05-08T10:18:32Z")

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Are you up for board level repairs?

I’ve had success with this. Change all four if you do it yourself.

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### Author: ![glassact](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a3d4f5/32.png) [@glassact](https://community.electricforum.com/u/glassact)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2016, 10:27am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-wont-go-into-reverse/6022/5 "2016-05-08T10:27:00Z")

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No problem there. Are there schematics available, and part numbers?  
Best - Ed

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### Author: ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2016, 11:09am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-wont-go-into-reverse/6022/6 "2016-05-08T11:09:59Z")

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Not that I know of.  
Parts have good markings to cross reference.  
When you open control, it’s obvious which TO-220 devices connect to field terminals.  
Will show dead short on bad one. Compare all four.  
If no numbers, I’ll share the ones I use.

STP80NF 12  
MOSFET N-ch 120V 80A TO-220

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### Author: ![glassact](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a3d4f5/32.png) [@glassact](https://community.electricforum.com/u/glassact)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-wont-go-into-reverse/6022/7 "2016-05-13T16:43:47Z")

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Received the parts from M\*\*\*\*\*, and replaced the bad transistor. I’m not receiving a -51 error, and when I check the voltage at the + and - end of the controller, I’ve no power. The fuses (particularly F13) are fine, and all 12 volt functions work. Any idea what else might be blown?  
Thanks in advance - Ed

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### Author: ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 6:06pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-wont-go-into-reverse/6022/8 "2016-05-13T18:06:58Z")

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Still run forward?  
If not, retrace your work. Something changed.  
You won’t have power on B+ at control until master relay pulls in.  
Controller logic must be happy for that to happen.
