# GEM/NEV/Golf Car Politics

**URL:** https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-nev-golf-car-politics/24986
**Category:** GEM Forum
**Created:** [August 24, 2022, 4:10pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-nev-golf-car-politics/24986 "2022-08-24T16:10:08Z")
**Posts on this page:** 5
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### Author: ![StuffMD](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/stuffmd/32/5918_2.png) [@StuffMD](https://community.electricforum.com/u/StuffMD)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2022, 4:10pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-nev-golf-car-politics/24986/1 "2022-08-24T16:10:08Z")

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> **[Golf Carts—Golf Carts!—Are the Transportation of the Future — Slate](https://apple.news/Ay6L_FPGvRH2PMUc0mgasww)**
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> Some green technology, if you will.

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### Author: ![dougl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b19c9b/32.png) [@dougl](https://community.electricforum.com/u/dougl)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-nev-golf-car-politics/24986/2 "2022-08-24T17:46:41Z")

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Our first NEV was a ZoneE back in 2010 and was a result of a 2009 Bush/Cheney exit plan to look green after destroying the US auto industry by feeding them ■■■■■■■■ about hydrogen future. They’d lowered the batter capacity to the point 6 lead acid batteries in a classic golf cart would qualify at a credit amount equal to the cost of the NEV which was $6,500 IIRC.

I’d seen it on TV and pulled the trigger on the last day possible and was the first in our area with a street legal electric golf cart. Three trips to the DMV at 3 hours each just to get it registered! In the process I also learned how States are able to tax vehicles via registration/etc fees. ie making vehicle owners Drivers for Hire by the State by giving up the bill of sale/ownership to the State in exchange for a State issued Title of Ownership.

Today there are many dozens of ‘golf carts’/NEVs in my area of town.

> **[Free Golf Cart--But Call It A "Low-Speed Neighborhood Vehicle"](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/free-golf-cart-but-call-it-a-low-speed-neighborhood-vehicle/)**
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> Want a free golf cart? An obscure provision in the economic stimulus legislation could land you one, but you've got to act fast, and you better not call it a "golf cart." Here are the qualifying cars and the massive tax breaks you can get from Uncle...

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### Author: ![Reddevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/reddevil/32/6128_2.png) [@Reddevil](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Reddevil)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2022, 3:45am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-nev-golf-car-politics/24986/3 "2022-08-26T03:45:41Z")

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Interesting to look at that list of NEVs, I only recognize a few and only a couple (Club Cart & GEM) I think are still in business.

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### Author: ![dougl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b19c9b/32.png) [@dougl](https://community.electricforum.com/u/dougl)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2022, 4:40am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-nev-golf-car-politics/24986/4 "2022-08-26T04:40:03Z")

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Remember though that the list was only street legal NEVs. The Zone Electric(ZoneE) was based on an Ez-Go setup but had lots of parts added to make it street legal and qualify for the tax credit.

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### Author: ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2022, 2:10pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-nev-golf-car-politics/24986/5 "2022-08-26T14:10:44Z")

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I got a near free 2008 Tomberlin NEV in 2010. I called it my Obama car.  
Free stuff to get re-elected.

“President George W. Bush first [introduced](https://www.congress.gov/bill/110th-congress/house-bill/6049) the EV tax credit in 2008, with a cap of $3,400 per car, and limited the credit to the first 60,000 cars per manufacturer. In 2009, **under President Barack Obama** , the cap was raised to $7,500 per car and the credit was expanded to the first 200,000 cars per manufacturer.”
