# GEM eL XD Truck - Upgrades - Lithium, R4F Motor, On-Board Solar Charging, 72v to 110v Inverter, Lights

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**Created:** [April 20, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-el-xd-truck-upgrades-lithium-r4f-motor-on-board-solar-charging-72v-to-110v-inverter-lights/15895 "2019-04-20T20:15:45Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 5:50am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-el-xd-truck-upgrades-lithium-r4f-motor-on-board-solar-charging-72v-to-110v-inverter-lights/15895/16 "2019-04-22T05:50:38Z")

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**Here is an inverter under consideration**  
It is about $250 from China. There are some others on eBay and one for over 1k on Amazon.

> **[100-149V 12-23V Car Power Inverters with DC/AC for sale | eBay](https://www.ebay.com/b/100-149V-12-23V-Car-Power-Inverters-with-DC-AC/58020/bn_73263016)**
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**Product description**

HuiKe pure sine wave inverters represent the most technologically advanced,  
lightweight, compact and diverse inverters on the market to help ensure the  
widest use of applications. For over a decade, the HuiKe ’ Power has  
consistently delivered the broadest range of sizes to accommodate virtually  
every power requirement. Advantages of a pure sine inverter: -Equipment  
runs more efficiently -Motors run cooler -Cleaner power -Ideal for power tool  
chargers, laser printers, electric shavers, microwaves, variable speed motors, TV’s, medical equipment.

Intelligent LCD automatically detects faults and provides modification suggestions.

Full Power, True Pure Sine Wave, No electromagnetic Interference

About Description:  
inverter input: 12V/24V/48V/60V/72VDC  
DC input range: 10V-15V/21V-30V/42V-58V/50V-70V/70V-90V  
Inverter output:AC110+/-5%  
Output frequency: 60Hz  
Ouput waveform: Pure Sine Wave  
Continous power: 2500W  
PEAK power: 5000W  
Inverter Best efficiency: Aprox 92%~97.2%  
No Load Current Draw:less than 0.3  
Low Voltage Alarm:10+/-0.5V, 20.5+/-1V, 44+/-1V, 55.5+/-1V, 62+/-3V  
Low Voltage Shut Down: 9.5+/-0.5V, 19.5+/-1V, 42+/-1V, 55.5+/-1V, 62+/-1V  
Over Voltage Shut Down:15.5V+/-0.5V  
Thermal shutdown: 60+ degrees  
Cooling Ways: Cooling Fan will run when the temperature is over 50 degree  
AC output: 2 BS socket  
Voltage input meter: yes  
Power out put meter: yes  
LCD display  
Over Thermal :Shut Off Output Automatically  
Fuses: Short Circuit  
Start:Soft Start  
Protection:Overload, Short Circuit, Overtemp, Reverse Polarity, Under/Over Voltage  
Machine Size(mm): 390_185_150MM  
Net Weight(kgs): 5.5kg aprox.

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I found this online calculator to be useful.

> **[Inverter AC to DC Amperage Conversion Calculator | Battery Stuff](https://www.batterystuff.com/kb/tools/ac-to-dc-amperage-conversion-run-through-an-inverter.html)**
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> Learn how to convert AC amps to DC amps through an inverter with our amperage conversion calculator, from Battery Stuff!

It does not have 72v but you can just use 36v & divide Amps DC by two.

**Amperage**  
I am aiming to create a 20 Amp 110 VAC supply and slightly oversizing the inverter for headroom.

 ![20a](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/4/465b421a48bc87f19c87aab7655f0e44f011ac69.png)  
This is about 34 Amps DC (67.47 / 2 = 33.74). Is this unreasonable? Too much? For comparison, what does the motor draw through the controller?

**Runtime**  
This is an example supplying 1,000 watts. How long will it last?

 ![1k](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/b/bb2a68b66930a97c645c294c241878f65ed0eee5.png)

- 1,000 watts equates to 15.35 Amps DC @ 72v (even less amperage at 80v)
- 160ah / 15.35 Amps = 10.42 hours theoretical max runtime
- 10.42 X 0.80 = 8.33 hours assuming a safe 80% depth of discharge
- 1,000 watts for 8 hours, 500 watts for 16 hours, and so on

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**Please point out any flaws in the math.**

I also found another thread about this idea with @Old_Houseboater @LA-GEM4s @Big_Dee @LithiumGods

> [@GEM car as power source in Blackout?](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-car-as-power-source-in-blackout/12199):
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> I’m a longtime reader - first time poster to the forum. Since buying my 2001 Gem 4 seater this month I’ve been thinking that it might also be a good source of power during a blackout (think earthquakes here in CA) Does anyone have a recommendation on hooking up an inverter to the 72 volt string? Would it be a direct hookup to the battery series, or simply plug into the cigarette lighter. Any thoughts on how to do this, and what brand/model inverter would be welcome. like this? Thank …

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