# GEM E825 No power to BDI

**URL:** <https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e825-no-power-to-bdi/23045>\
**Category:** GEM Forum\
**Created:** [December 8, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e825-no-power-to-bdi/23045 "2021-12-08T19:23:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![hollisvhan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7ab992/32.png) [@hollisvhan](https://community.electricforum.com/u/hollisvhan)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e825-no-power-to-bdi/23045/1 "2021-12-08T19:23:25Z")

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Hi:  
I am new to your forum and stumped with no power to my 2001 Gem car.  
When you turn on the main switch BDI lights briefly then goes blank. Lights wiper  
do not work. When you release the brake it buzzes. Batteries are good . Fuses good.  
Does anyone have any ideas on what to check? Thank You

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**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 8:12pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e825-no-power-to-bdi/23045/2 "2021-12-08T20:12:46Z")

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> [@hollisvhan](#):
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> Does anyone have any ideas on what to check?

Muffler bearings.

ok, seriously, check the DC-DC converter. Under the lower dash, passenger side, pretty much at the bottom. Is is a sealed aluminum box or is it an open PCB? If it’s an aluminum box, check it for proper operation. If it’s an open PCB, run your vin through the recall database at [NTSB.gov](http://NTSB.gov). The open boards were recalled for failures and fire hazard danger and are still being actively replaced under the recall by polaris.

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**Author:** ![hollisvhan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7ab992/32.png) [@hollisvhan](https://community.electricforum.com/u/hollisvhan)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e825-no-power-to-bdi/23045/3 "2021-12-08T21:09:56Z")

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Thanks for your answer but I had another DC DC converter and a controller and  
switched both out and no improvement.

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**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 9:30pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e825-no-power-to-bdi/23045/4 "2021-12-08T21:30:01Z")

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Ok. But what about the muffler bearings?

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**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e825-no-power-to-bdi/23045/5 "2021-12-08T21:31:37Z")

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And PM me your email address. I’ll send you the wiring diagrams for that era along with the service manual and troubleshooting guide

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e825-no-power-to-bdi/23045/6 "2021-12-08T22:24:35Z")

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![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/9/99c192e8d31aeea120d11be5a895c1625a5a86c5.jpeg)

Powered by controller +5 - p4 and p5

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**Author:** ![hollisvhan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7ab992/32.png) [@hollisvhan](https://community.electricforum.com/u/hollisvhan)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 5:56am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e825-no-power-to-bdi/23045/7 "2021-12-09T05:56:49Z")

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Thank you for your help.  
[tiffanywanted@comcast.net](mailto:tiffanywanted@comcast.net)

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**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 7:28am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e825-no-power-to-bdi/23045/8 "2021-12-09T07:28:32Z")

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Manuals etc sent. Hope it helps out some.

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**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 8:13am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e825-no-power-to-bdi/23045/9 "2021-12-09T08:13:36Z")

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It seems I remember the brief sneak peek of the BDI then it goes out when car is first powered up is normal.

Have you checked the key switch? Jump it if you have to.  
-If that doesn’t do anything different.

Then there is the Charger interlock that prevents you from driving away with the charger plugged in. Find a Red/G and a green wire on top of your charger and put those together.

If no change then,  
There is a little cube relay over on the passenger side that everybody seems to have fun pointing fingers at and switching out. Turn key on and listen/feel for a click. Else rap it a couple of times with a screwdriver.

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**Author:** ![hollisvhan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7ab992/32.png) [@hollisvhan](https://community.electricforum.com/u/hollisvhan)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 3:22pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e825-no-power-to-bdi/23045/10 "2021-12-09T15:22:45Z")

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I will try these tips. Thank you for responding to my thread.
