# Gem e6 battery pack

**URL:** <https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e6-battery-pack/22029>\
**Category:** GEM Forum\
**Created:** [July 30, 2021, 8:23pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e6-battery-pack/22029 "2021-07-30T20:23:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![GD\_Debre](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/gd_debre/32/15420_2.png) [@GD\_Debre](https://community.electricforum.com/u/GD_Debre)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 8:23pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e6-battery-pack/22029/1 "2021-07-30T20:23:36Z")

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Have a gem e6 with new batteries 9 8 volts that slow down on a half battery charge what should I do this are some pictures of my issues

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e6-battery-pack/22029/2 "2021-07-30T21:07:01Z")

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About all you can do is charge the batteries.  
Either the batteries or cabling, can’t hold the voltage above the minimum required for high speed.  
I guess you could reprogram for full speed, but it would only kill your batteries faster.  
If batteries are new, maybe it will improve after a few cycles.  
IMHO, I’m no expert on lead batteries, nor do I recommend them.

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**Author:** ![grantwest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/grantwest/32/15_2.png) [@grantwest](https://community.electricforum.com/u/grantwest)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e6-battery-pack/22029/3 "2021-07-30T21:25:32Z")

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Some More info:  
His controller is a New T4 that he got from Mike Mc from FSIP.  
He also said that One of his 9” 8v battery’s has a compromised positive terminal. (I guess one of his battery connections was loose and it burnt the pos terminal and now he is using a secondary connection to that compromised battery. My thought was that the battery that got hot is possibly compromised

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**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e6-battery-pack/22029/4 "2021-07-30T21:41:29Z")

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That is a distinct possibility, Dave. Melting a post is never a good thing for a lead battery.

Also, 9 batteries in series via flexible copper cables and counting on a bunch of 3/8" nuts to create good contacts by pressure alone is a lot of places to pick up extra resistance.

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**Author:** ![grantwest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/grantwest/32/15_2.png) [@grantwest](https://community.electricforum.com/u/grantwest)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e6-battery-pack/22029/5 "2021-07-30T22:09:11Z")

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My first guess was to “load tes the battery that has a comprised post. Any good automotive shop will do a battery test for free

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**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e6-battery-pack/22029/6 "2021-07-30T22:13:20Z")

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> My first guess was to “load tes the battery that has a comprised post.

I was thinking he could just put a meter across it and take it for a drive. If the damaged cell is in the middle of the pack he can put the meter lead on the next post in line(so it measures the quality of the compromised connection).

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**Author:** ![grantwest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/grantwest/32/15_2.png) [@grantwest](https://community.electricforum.com/u/grantwest)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 11:13pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e6-battery-pack/22029/7 "2021-07-30T23:13:36Z")

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If you had to guess what do you think Voltage drop would be on a FLA battery when he puts a load on it.  
Example the battery is fully charged 8v and you take off a healthy battery would drop down to what? 7v 6v? Just wondering

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**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 11:13pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e6-battery-pack/22029/8 "2021-07-30T23:13:47Z")

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Need a baseline on a good one first. What if the whole pack is clapped out.

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**Author:** ![grantwest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/grantwest/32/15_2.png) [@grantwest](https://community.electricforum.com/u/grantwest)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 12:26am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e6-battery-pack/22029/9 "2021-07-31T00:26:34Z")

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I agree. I had a battey go out on what I thought was a perfectly good pack. 1 of the battery’s just cracked and gassed. The entire pack dropped below spec and the car went into turtle mode

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**Author:** ![Old\_Houseboater](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/old_houseboater/32/544_2.png) [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 12:33am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e6-battery-pack/22029/10 "2021-07-31T00:33:11Z")

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Do a brake load test. If you have a dud it will show up in a hurry.

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**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 2:37am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e6-battery-pack/22029/11 "2021-07-31T02:37:41Z")

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hook uo your volt meter to the full pack and take it for a ride. If you have a problem you will see a voltage drop. Then check each battery for a bad one.

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**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 3:12am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e6-battery-pack/22029/12 "2021-07-31T03:12:25Z")

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> [@JarJarJava](#):
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> Need a baseline on a good one first.

Yeah, that is a given.  
The _ **ONE** _ time I didn’t have time write a 73 line essay/explanation and you call me out on it!

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**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e6-battery-pack/22029/13 "2021-07-31T14:19:05Z")

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> [@AssyRequired](#):
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> The _ **ONE** _ time I didn’t have time write a 73 line essay/explanation and you call me out on it!

**BOOYAH!**

Personally, I like Grant’s suggestion about using a load tester, you don’t really need historical data. It’s like the brake load test, when it tanks a bad battery, you know it. One of the reasons why I own a 400A load tester. Unlike the brake load test, you only beat up one battery at a time. Down side is, that for 9 batteries, I’d have to toss the load bank in the freezer of a bit every other test or so after the first few. Otherwise it will be so overheated that it won’t pull the desired amps.

@grantwest . I’ve seen the combined per-cell average voltage of a fully charged 36 cell FLA pack, which was otherwise healthy save 4 of 6 cells cooked in one of the batteries, fall to below terminal voltage per cell under heavy load, So between 6 and 7V for that one battery is a possibility.

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**Author:** ![GD\_Debre](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/gd_debre/32/15420_2.png) [@GD\_Debre](https://community.electricforum.com/u/GD_Debre)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 1:44am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e6-battery-pack/22029/14 "2021-08-01T01:44:43Z")

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This is what I found so far one of my batteries that was the terminal was burned shows 8.3 volts and when driving goes down to 6 and even 3 volts other batteries show 8.6 and when driving 8 volts so am guessing just buy one new battery right ???

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**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 2:26am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e6-battery-pack/22029/15 "2021-08-01T02:26:28Z")

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Yeaup. Just go replace that one for now

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**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 4:08am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e6-battery-pack/22029/16 "2021-08-01T04:08:33Z")

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wish you were close, have a few good used one for 100/ea
