# Gem e4 2011 brake light on dash

**URL:** <https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e4-2011-brake-light-on-dash/28683>\
**Category:** GEM Forum\
**Created:** [December 11, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e4-2011-brake-light-on-dash/28683 "2024-12-11T20:07:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 2:40pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e4-2011-brake-light-on-dash/28683/21 "2024-12-14T14:40:10Z")

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OK- Next task is to check the red wire down at that switch.  
It should have 12v (ref ChassGnd/frame). If not- Check Fuse 10

 ![PSDM Fuses](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/4/4fec0a7cef6f5731f33d3de0ffad6cf0e1968b32.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![gofast67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gofast67](https://community.electricforum.com/u/gofast67)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e4-2011-brake-light-on-dash/28683/22 "2024-12-15T21:46:27Z")

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You fixed it,I found that fuse was blown. Thank you so much for all the help. Anywhere I can donate?

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**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e4-2011-brake-light-on-dash/28683/23 "2024-12-15T21:49:19Z")

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What about the brake light on the dash?  
If it is still lit up, then check/top off your brake fluid.  
Depending on how low it is, you might check your wheels to see if they are showing signs of leaking.

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**Author:** ![gofast67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gofast67](https://community.electricforum.com/u/gofast67)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 1:29am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e4-2011-brake-light-on-dash/28683/24 "2024-12-19T01:29:48Z")

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Yes, the light is out on the dash as it should be. Question, I need a new seatbelt for driver’s side.

 ![20241218_160745](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/3X/2/5/256e7369973d48199d98d825a2500e4227c4ae2f.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 3:09am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e4-2011-brake-light-on-dash/28683/25 "2024-12-19T03:09:24Z")

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And Dave’s still not here, man.

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**Author:** ![gofast67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gofast67](https://community.electricforum.com/u/gofast67)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e4-2011-brake-light-on-dash/28683/26 "2025-02-04T20:08:35Z")

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Guess what,it’s back. Vehicle doesn’t run,and has 15 fault code. Any ideas

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**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 9:01pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e4-2011-brake-light-on-dash/28683/27 "2025-02-04T21:01:47Z")

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What is back? The light?

-15 is Battery low.  
Get you meter out and find out what it is looking at. When was the last time you charged the car?

If your Brake light is on again, go through the checks again and see if it is a fluid low(which does not keep the car from moving), or an actual Hand Brake Loop issue.

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**Author:** ![gofast67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gofast67](https://community.electricforum.com/u/gofast67)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 1:52pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e4-2011-brake-light-on-dash/28683/28 "2025-02-05T13:52:52Z")

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Ok,I will check this in a lil while

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**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 3:28pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e4-2011-brake-light-on-dash/28683/29 "2025-02-05T15:28:59Z")

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In case you needed a refresher. Pulled down from post 3.

> [@AssyRequired](#):
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> # _Step1 - Hand Brake Loop Test_
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> 1. Verify that the car is not plugged in and charging. Is the interlock active? As stupid as this sounds, This happened twice last week to people I have been coaching. The car won’t do much if it is plugged in.
> 2. Next step is _ **ALWAYS** _ verify the handbrake safety loop is active. If car does not do this, - don’t even try to continue.  
> → **MainBattSw ON, KeyOFF, Drop Brake -** This sequence should produce a steady beep. You can’t really miss it. It is somewhere between ear splitting and nails on a chalkboard.
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> **Does it beep?  
> Verify(Y/N)?**
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> Three ways to silence beep
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> - KeyON
> - lift brake handle.
> - MainBattSwOFF
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> **Verify(Y/N?)**
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> Your response/result will direct next set of instructions.

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**Author:** ![gofast67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gofast67](https://community.electricforum.com/u/gofast67)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 2:37pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e4-2011-brake-light-on-dash/28683/30 "2025-02-17T14:37:24Z")

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Good morning, the vehicle showed about 40% charged but threw a code. I charged it,and all is well again. Sorry about that

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**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 5:20pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e4-2011-brake-light-on-dash/28683/31 "2025-02-17T17:20:35Z")

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The SOC indicator (battery bars thingy) and the KeyON test that triggers the -15, are two separate systems. The fact that they are not agreeing is a concern.

It sounds like a battery may be going bad, in need of a balancing cycle, Need water checked(depending on what battery type), improper batteries were installed, not being charged fully, or they might be old and worn out.

When was the last time a full battery check done on this car?

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**Author:** ![gofast67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gofast67](https://community.electricforum.com/u/gofast67)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2025, 4:06pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e4-2011-brake-light-on-dash/28683/32 "2025-03-03T16:06:34Z")

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They were just to low to run. Cart is performing well

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