# Gem e2, 2 seater 2002 E825 Lithium Upgrade(tighter fit)

**URL:** <https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042>\
**Category:** GEM Forum\
**Created:** [February 10, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042 "2017-02-10T19:15:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![grantwest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/grantwest/32/15_2.png) [@grantwest](https://community.electricforum.com/u/grantwest)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 3:39am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042/42 "2017-02-14T03:39:12Z")

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The shocks I’m using on my E4 are Porgressive  
416 series’s shocks

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**Author:** ![nakedwaterskier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/258eb7/32.png) [@nakedwaterskier](https://community.electricforum.com/u/nakedwaterskier)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 3:54am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042/43 "2017-02-14T03:54:54Z")

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Thanks…but i have opposite camber issue from going for more speed; taller tires; less weight.

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**Author:** ![nakedwaterskier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/258eb7/32.png) [@nakedwaterskier](https://community.electricforum.com/u/nakedwaterskier)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 4:17pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042/44 "2017-02-14T16:17:20Z")

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The 13.9" measurement is expanded measurement? Do you  
have a compressed measurement? Or they don’t do/have one cuz air shocks?

> **[MonroeMountingLengthSpecifications.pdf](https://www.monroe.com/downloads/install-instructions-guides/MonroeMountingLengthSpecifications.pdf)**
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> 4.03 MB

  
Front are different or same as rear?  
Found this on Ebay:  
POLARIS GEM CAR - ADJUSTABLE FRONT  
SHOCK ABSORBER  
Fits Front of 1999 to 2004 and Rear of 1999-2012 GEM Cars

thanks,  
Jeffrey

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**Author:** ![nakedwaterskier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/258eb7/32.png) [@nakedwaterskier](https://community.electricforum.com/u/nakedwaterskier)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042/45 "2017-02-14T16:36:27Z")

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58270 Shock ----- ----- XP4 S4 8.75" 13" 4.25" 45 P1134 MOUNTS ARE DIFFERENT ON ALL THESE/BELOW TOO.  
58273 Shock ----- ----- XP4 S4 8.75" 13" 4.25" 45 P1134  
58275 Shock ----- ----- LS38 S4 9.25" 14" 4.75" 45 P1135  
13 or 14 inches are extended measurement  
45 is spring rate  
The 4 numbers towards right before the spring rate are the travel

5804 Shock ----- ----- XP4 S4 8.63" 13.38" 4.75" ----- P1134  
5809 Shock ----- ----- SP S4 9" 13.63" 4.63" ----- P01136 & P00423  
5815 Shock ----- ----- LS19 S4 8.75" 13.25" 4.5" ----- P1134  
5821 Shock ----- ----- XP4 S4 8" 11.75" 3.75" ----- P1134  
5823 Shock ----- ----- SP S4 8.63" 12.63" 4" ----- P01137 & P00423

AND HAVE TO BE COIL OVER OR AIR…

SO NOW [http://www.monroeheavyduty.com/catalog/dimensional-search](http://www.monroeheavyduty.com/catalog/dimensional-search)

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**Author:** ![nakedwaterskier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/258eb7/32.png) [@nakedwaterskier](https://community.electricforum.com/u/nakedwaterskier)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042/46 "2017-02-14T17:52:40Z")

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Shocks continued:  
Monroe MaxLift  
MaxLift Part Number Compressed Length Extended Length  
These fit but they are for holding hatches/hoods open; ie won’t work

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**Author:** ![nakedwaterskier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/258eb7/32.png) [@nakedwaterskier](https://community.electricforum.com/u/nakedwaterskier)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 12:35am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042/47 "2017-02-15T00:35:40Z")

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**Author:** ![nakedwaterskier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/258eb7/32.png) [@nakedwaterskier](https://community.electricforum.com/u/nakedwaterskier)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 12:37am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042/48 "2017-02-15T00:37:20Z")

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**Author:** ![nakedwaterskier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/258eb7/32.png) [@nakedwaterskier](https://community.electricforum.com/u/nakedwaterskier)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 12:38am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042/49 "2017-02-15T00:38:53Z")

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**Author:** ![nakedwaterskier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/258eb7/32.png) [@nakedwaterskier](https://community.electricforum.com/u/nakedwaterskier)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042/50 "2017-02-15T00:39:43Z")

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Just have to bolt em dn.20 modules no FLA for ballast

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 1:02am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042/51 "2017-02-15T01:02:49Z")

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Very nice.  
Make sure to take care of them for long life.  
Check balance every charge cycle until you can trust them.

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 4:34am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042/52 "2017-02-15T04:34:49Z")

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> [@Troyin909](#):
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> I’ll contact you tomorrow when I get started on mine. Installing 20 modules. I’m still at w

Does this look right?

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Numbers are bms-24 connections

This is for older leaf. Not newer two packs.

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**Author:** ![nakedwaterskier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/258eb7/32.png) [@nakedwaterskier](https://community.electricforum.com/u/nakedwaterskier)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 2:57pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042/53 "2017-02-15T14:57:41Z")

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the vohm meter shows how to hookup the bms  
if you rely on this chickenscratch on this piece of paper; you will ■■■■ it up!

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042/54 "2017-02-15T15:19:01Z")

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Yes, definitely check 9 pin plugs before plugging into bms.  
This was a picture from Troy, that he wanted marked as to strap connections. I just added the numbers to be helpful.  
Kind of a harsh assessment. It looked clear to me.  
Does it seem correct?  
I will delete it if it’s incorrect or misleading.  
The two of you are working together?  
Same setup?

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**Author:** ![nakedwaterskier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/258eb7/32.png) [@nakedwaterskier](https://community.electricforum.com/u/nakedwaterskier)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042/55 "2017-02-15T16:12:56Z")

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The front to back orientation of the battery pack to the vehicle seems wrong and confusing. Do the 4 seaters  
have a tunnel in them from back to front that I don’t know about?  
Also, I thought you were showing him how to hook up the bms, too on this paper. In any case,  
a Vohm meter should be used to make sure.

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**Author:** ![nakedwaterskier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/258eb7/32.png) [@nakedwaterskier](https://community.electricforum.com/u/nakedwaterskier)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 4:03pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042/56 "2017-02-15T16:03:23Z")

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I have to group them together differently. I just thought he should double check with Vohm meter because he is not a chiphead; neither am I for that matter. Isn’t his battery pack going to be oriented 90 degrees differently; under the seat?

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042/57 "2017-02-15T17:50:59Z")

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I replied to his picture in an email and told him exactly the same thing.  
Use a meter every step.  
Check for zero volts before bolting on each strap.  
I didn’t critique his drawing. Only added the connections to what was there.  
If they fit like that, it will be a nice setup. I think my truck is similar.

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042/58 "2017-02-15T18:51:37Z")

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> [@nakedwaterskier](#):
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> I have to group them together differently. I just thought he should double check with Vohm meter because he is not a chiphead; neither am I for that matter. Isn’t his battery pack going to be oriented 9

That’s what Grant thought too.

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**Author:** ![nakedwaterskier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/258eb7/32.png) [@nakedwaterskier](https://community.electricforum.com/u/nakedwaterskier)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042/59 "2017-02-15T20:32:23Z")

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Yeah, he just sent me a video with the normal battery orientation which is 90 degrees different from diagram…and  
being held down by the stock FLA battery bar. I couldn’t use that stock bar with 2 seater.

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042/60 "2017-02-15T20:46:43Z")

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BMS is next. U use same thin wire what 20 gauge even have to run wire 7 feet to dash?

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-e2-2-seater-2002-e825-lithium-upgrade-tighter-fit/12042/61 "2017-02-15T20:47:29Z")

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