# Gem displays 4 things briefly when ignition is switched on then goes blank **URL:** \ **Category:** GEM Forum\ **Created:** [April 28, 2023, 11:01pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-displays-4-things-briefly-when-ignition-is-switched-on-then-goes-blank/26280 "2023-04-28T23:01:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 5:07pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-displays-4-things-briefly-when-ignition-is-switched-on-then-goes-blank/26280/21 "2023-08-18T17:07:59Z")
On passenger side, under dash, on panel under windshield. A couple of posts up there is a pic of both items. Verify that you need a new one first using the steps in this thread. In a pinch, you can substitute a standard 12v Bosch cube relay available Amazon or your local auto parts store. ---
**Author:** ![Dennis1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@Dennis1](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Dennis1)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2023, 2:09pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-displays-4-things-briefly-when-ignition-is-switched-on-then-goes-blank/26280/22 "2023-08-19T14:09:17Z")
Thank you so much. I will get out to the car and go through the steps. You are the best. If it wasn’t for the forum, I would probably have given up on the GEM - but we love cruising around in it. ---
**Author:** ![Dennis1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@Dennis1](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Dennis1)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-displays-4-things-briefly-when-ignition-is-switched-on-then-goes-blank/26280/23 "2023-08-28T17:00:25Z")
Finally got out to the car (after being sick for a week 😖) and found the offending relay - although they moved it on my GEM - Verified that the relay is bad using a fuse as suggested. I purchased this Bosch relay, but I am very much a novice on electronics, so I don’t know how to make the connections. If necessary, I will try to find the original one as that would make it easy. \*\*\*[quote=“Dennis1, post:22, topic:26280, full:true”] Thank you so much. I will get out to the car and go through the steps. You are the best. If it wasn’t for the forum, I would probably have given up on the GEM - but we love cruising around in it. [/quote] * * * ---
**Author:** ![Dennis1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@Dennis1](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Dennis1)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-displays-4-things-briefly-when-ignition-is-switched-on-then-goes-blank/26280/24 "2023-08-28T17:06:13Z")
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**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-displays-4-things-briefly-when-ignition-is-switched-on-then-goes-blank/26280/25 "2023-08-28T17:23:12Z")
That is a unique spot to put that. Not sure I have seen that before. Try this- This is as you are looking at the bottom of the relay. The numbers may even be printed on the bottom next to the pins. Yours has the additional center connect (87a). Ignore that. We do not need it in this application. ![Cube Relay Diagram2](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/d/d1231bf32177a41f262bac261104122425adc4fc.jpeg) * * * You can also do your ears a favor and put a piece of tape over that beeper hole. That is the round cylinder next to this relay. The hole is on the bottom. I find it still useful to hear a muffled beep, rather than no beep at all (unhooking it). ---
**Author:** ![Dennis1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@Dennis1](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Dennis1)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 5:54pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-displays-4-things-briefly-when-ignition-is-switched-on-then-goes-blank/26280/26 "2023-08-28T17:54:35Z")
That worked!! The pins were labeled. I had to modify the connectors as 2 of them were smaller than the blades. I will take your advice and quiet down the beeper. You are just the best. Thanks again so much. We passed the 10000 mile mark and still going strong largely thanks to you. Dennis ---
**Author:** ![dougl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b19c9b/32.png) [@dougl](https://community.electricforum.com/u/dougl)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 8:00pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-displays-4-things-briefly-when-ignition-is-switched-on-then-goes-blank/26280/27 "2023-08-28T20:00:02Z")
> [@AssyRequired](#): > > You can also do your ears a favor and put a piece of tape over that beeper hole. That is the round cylinder next to this relay. GEM thought it quite handy to put the BackUp Beeper under the dashboard to let the driver and passengers know they will be or are going backwards. ---
**Author:** ![mdknapp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cdc98d/32.png) [@mdknapp](https://community.electricforum.com/u/mdknapp)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 12:14am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-displays-4-things-briefly-when-ignition-is-switched-on-then-goes-blank/26280/28 "2023-08-29T00:14:44Z")
FYI, this is where I ordered the replacement relay from: [https://www.ebay.com/itm/202315607433](https://www.ebay.com/itm/202315607433) Mike [Previous page](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-displays-4-things-briefly-when-ignition-is-switched-on-then-goes-blank/26280.md?page=1)