# Gem a.c. motor conversions 8kw motor

**URL:** <https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597>\
**Category:** GEM Forum\
**Created:** [November 25, 2019, 10:47am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597 "2019-11-25T10:47:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2020, 3:43am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597/43 "2020-02-09T03:43:11Z")

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I think we are ready to share with some early adopters.  
Classic t4/t3 gems only, so far.  
Ask @MikeKC about pricing. He is building the kits. I have the parts.  
Mike can confirm. Except for the 3 phase wires from motor to controller, plug and play.  
He should post some pictures soon.

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**Author:** ![MikeKC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2020, 3:51am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597/44 "2020-02-09T03:51:24Z")

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Pics as promised: Yes the wiring is messy - this is what it looks like when you are testing.  
Final product will be nice and clean.  
As you can see the 23pin connector for the T2/T3 plugs into the converter board. Then out to the sevcon controller. Pretty slick setup. Again “Dave is the Man”.  
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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2020, 5:12am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597/45 "2020-02-09T05:12:33Z")

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Does pb work? (Parking brake)  
Turf?  
Remember that board also transfers the regen function. Useful if we find the trigger in the gem.  
Map an input and set % torque while braking.  
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**Author:** ![MikeKC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2020, 6:05am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597/46 "2020-02-09T06:05:43Z")

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I think PB will work, but not mapped at this time.  
Yes Forward/Turf/Reverse working as switched.  
I think if we just adjust the ramp down settings the regen will be fine. It is working, My personal preference this that it would be a little harder regen, like in my Tesla.

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2020, 11:29am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597/47 "2020-02-09T11:29:00Z")

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I’ll send my file with my preferred regen and D1 later.  
Don’t give up on Gems. I need someone who can help develop kits.

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2020, 3:10pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597/48 "2020-02-09T15:10:54Z")

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Just sent my current Anvil file.  
It has nice regen and D1 mode. It should work in Gem with only throttle changes.  
I think that I mapped the parking brake to Sevcon P20. Have we ever tested the Gem for active low on Gem p13?

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**Author:** ![Matthew\_Cotten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/matthew_cotten/32/6918_2.png) [@Matthew\_Cotten](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Matthew_Cotten)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 8:14am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597/49 "2020-04-30T08:14:56Z")

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Hi guys, I have a 2005 EL truck INWO has helped me with, thank you INWO!  
I just burned up my stock controller, borrowing from another project so I’m still going but I am sure my 100 volt pack and lead foot will be killing my set up by mid summer and I would love to have more then 20 miles range without a battery upgrade. I’m running 6kw ford cmax batts and chargery BMS.  
I love to tinker, have a lot of electric RC car background but CANBUS and computer programming is way out of my league. I am a bit on the low budget side, this truck is actually my daily driver with lumber rack for half the year and saves a bunch on fuel and maintenance.  
I’m all in and able to follow directions when there is somewhat of a kit ready.

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**Author:** ![Matthew\_Cotten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/matthew_cotten/32/6918_2.png) [@Matthew\_Cotten](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Matthew_Cotten)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 8:16am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597/50 "2020-04-30T08:16:42Z")

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**Author:** ![Matthew\_Cotten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/matthew_cotten/32/6918_2.png) [@Matthew\_Cotten](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Matthew_Cotten)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 8:17am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597/51 "2020-04-30T08:17:37Z")

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**Author:** ![MikeKC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 12:16pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597/52 "2020-04-30T12:16:16Z")

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@Matthew_Cotten  
I think we have a setup just for you 🙂  
Read up on the other threads about 8Kw motors. Dave and I can get you hooked up.  
I can fill you in on all details later but have to run off to a meeting right now.

@Inwo

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**Author:** ![Matthew\_Cotten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/matthew_cotten/32/6918_2.png) [@Matthew\_Cotten](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Matthew_Cotten)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 12:37pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597/53 "2020-04-30T12:37:38Z")

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Oh man! Thank you Mike! No hurry but I’m completely ready! I will try to get more people with gems on my island interested! 🕶

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 12:44pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597/54 "2020-04-30T12:44:13Z")

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I’ve also been following for a year now excited to be a part, I just know I have nothing to offer for help in the real work you guys are doing so I have been getting by with my old stock set up and a 24 cell lipo battery pack until I could be a part with my limited knolage. Very excited! Love my truck!🙂

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**Author:** ![Matthew\_Cotten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/matthew_cotten/32/6918_2.png) [@Matthew\_Cotten](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Matthew_Cotten)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597/55 "2020-05-01T00:28:53Z")

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I’ve figured out most of it, I found your PC board kit on ebay and the induction motor at that motorsports place but I still need a programmed Controller and would rather buy all of it from mike and INWO to help as much as I can. I’m hoping Dave has a bunch of induction motor to sell still!

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**Author:** ![MikeKC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 12:41am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597/56 "2020-05-01T00:41:21Z")

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@Matthew_Cotten  
Sorry I have not gotten back to you, busy day with my real job. Yes Dave has plenty of motors/controllers and we can build the boards and program the controllers. Give me a day and I will PM you with all the details and caveats (which you may have already read about).

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**Author:** ![Matthew\_Cotten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/matthew_cotten/32/6918_2.png) [@Matthew\_Cotten](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Matthew_Cotten)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597/57 "2020-05-01T00:57:35Z")

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Great! Thank you Mike. 🕶

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**Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 1:09am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597/58 "2020-05-01T01:09:56Z")

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> [@Matthew\_Cotten](#):
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> I’m hoping Dave has a bunch of induction motor to sell still!

Yes, I do. I prefer to sell a few at a time on a pallet. The boards and controllers are easy to ship.  
I can build the boards if Mike can’t find the time. I can only bench test them, as I don’t have a classic Gem for testing.

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**Author:** ![Matthew\_Cotten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/matthew_cotten/32/6918_2.png) [@Matthew\_Cotten](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Matthew_Cotten)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 1:26am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597/59 "2020-05-01T01:26:33Z")

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Hi, thank you! Sounds like I should start with two motors then as I get more cash(soon) I will purchase the controller and board. No hurry but I’m ready when you are Dave, thank you!

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**Author:** ![Matthew\_Cotten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/matthew_cotten/32/6918_2.png) [@Matthew\_Cotten](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Matthew_Cotten)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 1:45am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597/60 "2020-05-02T01:45:27Z")

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Are these the correct pins?

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 1:52am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597/61 "2020-05-02T01:52:35Z")

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Hmmm, it is a T4 controller from an 2006 model.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 4:08am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/gem-a-c-motor-conversions-8kw-motor/17597/62 "2020-05-02T04:08:41Z")

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It’s p7 that is 0-5v throttle input.

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