# Ford Think lithium upgrade

**URL:** <https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886>\
**Category:** Ford NEVs\
**Created:** [August 10, 2022, 12:04am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886 "2022-08-10T00:04:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Avi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Avi](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Avi)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 12:33pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886/102 "2023-01-24T12:33:58Z")

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My cart is a Ford Think  
I totally rebuilt this cart and it’s look great but I don’t have a lot of knowledge in electricity  
I have nothing against Samsung pack 😁 I just don’t know how to manage the connectors and the BMS  
If you can explain this in detail, I can try to do this  
Thanks

AA

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 12:42pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886/103 "2023-01-24T12:42:41Z")

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Here are complete Samsung installation instructions in a Think…

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/1/1ba4d1a4f53d166f7d233463b2bfe9de1b0f57d9.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Avi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Avi](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Avi)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886/104 "2023-01-24T18:39:58Z")

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Ok this looks easy 😃 Thanks  
Where did you got this pack ?

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 7:04pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886/105 "2023-01-24T19:04:09Z")

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That’s my main product. Also sold by associates in Ca. And Fl. Possibly KcMo.  
Picture installed in a Gem. A little easier in think as it fits under seat crossways.  
 ![sam 22s on shelf](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/d/dc43d360df8de6e966dcef7cafb8cbf4088df946.jpeg)  
 ![05cb2b31a2925ab50fcc5b507ac248abc989ff97_2_375x500.jpeg-1](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/f/f55946b660f37c3580c6e593b679e2b4fdf9fa1b.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 7:06pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886/106 "2023-01-24T19:06:59Z")

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$2750 complete picked up or delivered along someone’s route.  
Add $150 Fedex shipping.  
I/we take cash payment methods. Zelle, Venmo, check by mail.  
I do not take PayPal payments for goods.

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**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 7:41am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886/107 "2023-01-25T07:41:42Z")

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Interesting timing. I assisted on one of these today.  
There was some minor trimming(plastic) in the tray area, flipped over the plastic battery divider, Removed the flimsy corner deflectors up front(unbolted and drilled out the rivents), we had to cut a groove in the aluminum upbrace to bury the handbrake cable, and move the main relay a bit.  
It fit like OJ Simpson trying on a glove, but this battery looks like it belongs in there.

 ![sdi-think](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/e/ee0d905ea0ae3827cd90ac2acd78e44053deb187.jpeg)

@Avi - Has your cluster been rebuilt by BoB the Cluster Guy yet?

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**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 8:06am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886/108 "2023-01-25T08:06:06Z")

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> [@AssyRequired](#):
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> It fit like OJ Simpson trying on a glove,

Why would a Wookiee, an 8-foot-tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of 2-foot-tall Ewoks? That does _not make sense!_ But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It _does not make sense!_ Look at me. I’m a lawyer defending a major record company, and I’m talkin’ about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you’re in that jury room deliberatin’ and conjugatin’ the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does _not make sense!_ If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests

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**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 8:26am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886/109 "2023-01-25T08:26:24Z")

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Have you been eating the 'shrooms that pop up in the front lawn again?

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**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 8:35am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886/110 "2023-01-25T08:35:32Z")

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The Snozzberries Taste Like Snozzberries!

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 12:49pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886/111 "2023-01-25T12:49:13Z")

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Very nice, thank you. Did @JarJarJava give you good instructions? Sounds right on point today.

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**Author:** ![Avi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Avi](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Avi)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 1:42pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886/112 "2023-01-25T13:42:53Z")

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No I don’t have ani batteries at the moment

Like the OJ reference 😀

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**Author:** ![Avi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Avi](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Avi)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886/113 "2023-01-25T13:50:34Z")

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No batteries 😀 on the cart at all so I need to make a choice

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**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 1:53pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886/114 "2023-01-25T13:53:02Z")

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@Avi - Have you had your cluster modified by Bob?

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**Author:** ![Avi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Avi](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Avi)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 1:54pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886/115 "2023-01-25T13:54:19Z")

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No 🤔 I don’t know Bob

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 2:35pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886/116 "2023-01-25T14:35:48Z")

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I am nowhere NEAR an expert on these(so do your research).  
All cards on the table.

One weak link with the Ford Think is the cluster. This is the round display in the center of the dash. It does some major decision/safety checks and the human interface to the car. Without it, your car is dead. If you step back from the car a bit - Your car was only built one year and is now about 20 years old. There is not a huge warehouse of parts available to keep these things rolling.

The cluster apparently has a major flaw that sometimes decides to not boot up any longer. It involves the input power. Bob is the guy that figured it out and offers repair services. According to him it is not about IF your cluster will fail, but WHEN.

He is also HIGHLY biased against lithium. He thinks we are all crazy and says it will never work (even when we show him a working car). When asked why/where is the weak link, he just avoids the question.

The reason I bring it up is that I suspect the cluster is probably the weak component here. In stock form it may not appreciate the higher voltage. Hearing Bob go all twitchy every time someone mentions Lithium might suggest he also may be using components on the edge of voltage limits too.

Google search “Bob the cluster guy” and you should be directed to his content.

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**Author:** ![Avi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Avi](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Avi)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886/117 "2023-02-10T14:28:15Z")

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Thanks 🙏  
I think I have all the information I’ll contact Bob  
( without telling him that I might go lithium)  
Thanks

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**Author:** ![Alanpacbch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df788c/32.png) [@Alanpacbch](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Alanpacbch)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 8:17pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886/118 "2023-06-29T20:17:08Z")

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Not sure if i need to start a new topic or reply…but here goes.

Its 2023. What is the latest battery pack upgrade?  
What do you have…how is is holding up?  
I have the gen 2 controller, and motor. I had my cluster rebuilt a few years ago by Scott at Electrons in Motion, along with some other upgrades.

Currently have gels that are aging out.

I see the Samsung SDI 22s

I am looking at the Bigbattery Falcon 72’s also

Thoughts?

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**Author:** ![vertcnc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a183cd/32.png) [@vertcnc](https://community.electricforum.com/u/vertcnc)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 11:57pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886/119 "2023-07-13T23:57:41Z")

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Looking to add some Lithium batteries to my Ford Think. Has anyone used the Tesla Modules? It appears that the Samsung SDI Cells are only good to 150A. What’s the Max Amps these pull?

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 12:21am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886/120 "2023-07-14T00:21:37Z")

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Sdi works fine in Think.

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**Author:** ![vertcnc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a183cd/32.png) [@vertcnc](https://community.electricforum.com/u/vertcnc)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 11:53am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/ford-think-lithium-upgrade/24886/121 "2023-07-14T11:53:38Z")

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Is the original silver charger programable for lithium? Any lithium chargers available?

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