# DC - DC Converter Removal **URL:** \ **Category:** Ford NEVs\ **Created:** [March 10, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dc-dc-converter-removal/18274 "2020-03-10T17:34:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JeffinTexas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/db5fbb/32.png) [@JeffinTexas](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JeffinTexas)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dc-dc-converter-removal/18274/1 "2020-03-10T17:34:27Z")
New to the forum. I’ve had a Think Neighbor since 2006 and it has always had issues. I replaced the batteries and drive it occasionally, but the problems have always been there. I decided to sell, but I don’t want to sell it with the problems. Here are the problems. No lights, no turn signals and no horn. This leads me to believe the primary DC - DC Converter has failed. To investigate further, I need to remove the Front Floor Kick Up. I have the electrical manual pdf, but not the Body Manual. Where can I get a pdf of the Body Manual? Thanks, Jeff ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dc-dc-converter-removal/18274/2 "2020-03-10T17:35:21Z")
Sell it on here with the problems. We don’t mind! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JeffinTexas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/db5fbb/32.png) [@JeffinTexas](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JeffinTexas)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 5:47pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dc-dc-converter-removal/18274/3 "2020-03-10T17:47:33Z")
Turns out I have a PDF of the full manual. I probably got it years ago and forgot I had it. Removing the front Floor Kick Up will be a challenge. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Illingworth](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/david_illingworth/32/2671_2.png) [@David\_Illingworth](https://community.electricforum.com/u/David_Illingworth)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 12:01pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dc-dc-converter-removal/18274/4 "2020-03-11T12:01:32Z")
The wiring will reach from one converter to the other. One runs pretty much everything while the second one runs the cigarette lighter. They are very easy to diagnose. 4 wires 72 volts in 12 volts out. Orange wires are your 72 volts power and ground and the red and black wires are the 12 volt power and ground. ---
**Author:** ![JeffinTexas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/db5fbb/32.png) [@JeffinTexas](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JeffinTexas)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dc-dc-converter-removal/18274/5 "2020-03-13T18:59:50Z")
Thanks to the advice from David Illingworth, I was able to swap the wiring without removing the floor kick-up. All the accessories are working except the power port, or what use to be called, cigarette lighter. Now time to sell ---
**Author:** ![JeffinTexas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/db5fbb/32.png) [@JeffinTexas](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JeffinTexas)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dc-dc-converter-removal/18274/6 "2020-03-13T19:09:46Z")
I fixed the problem by swapping the Primary DC-DC Converter with the Optional unit. Still missing a windshield, but now I fell better about selling it. I’ll list it on this site once I figure out how. ---
**Author:** ![JeffinTexas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/db5fbb/32.png) [@JeffinTexas](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JeffinTexas)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dc-dc-converter-removal/18274/7 "2020-03-13T19:22:39Z")
Thanks, I was able to get the existing wiring moved around enough to make it work. ---
**Author:** ![Don-1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Don-1](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Don-1)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 5:01pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dc-dc-converter-removal/18274/8 "2020-07-02T17:01:06Z")
Where is the DC Down-Converter (72V to 12V) located in the Think? If 12V is already coming out of it, then can I just tap into it to run an accessory (radio) I’d like to install and not buy a separate DC Down-Converter? Also, where is the best place to tap into a wire for this radio that would only be hot when the Key Switch is in an ON position? (I was told it is NOT good to tap into the actual Key Switch wire (the red one, I think). Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Don-1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Don-1](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Don-1)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dc-dc-converter-removal/18274/9 "2020-07-02T17:02:29Z")
Could you please send me a copy of the PDF containing the full manual? ---
**Author:** ![Don-1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Don-1](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Don-1)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dc-dc-converter-removal/18274/10 "2020-07-02T17:07:41Z")
I believe I found the manual on [ManualsLib.com](http://ManualsLib.com). Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Illingworth](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/david_illingworth/32/2671_2.png) [@David\_Illingworth](https://community.electricforum.com/u/David_Illingworth)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dc-dc-converter-removal/18274/11 "2020-07-04T18:13:29Z")
There are two dc/dc converters If you need the manual send me your email address. ---
**Author:** ![JeffinTexas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/db5fbb/32.png) [@JeffinTexas](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JeffinTexas)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dc-dc-converter-removal/18274/12 "2020-07-04T18:36:53Z")
Thank you for getting them, however my wife listed it for sale and it was gone in a few days. I was able to swap the DC-DC converters so most everything was working, minus the power port. Again thank you ---
**Author:** ![Craigy240771](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Craigy240771](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Craigy240771)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dc-dc-converter-removal/18274/13 "2025-03-01T19:20:49Z")
Hi David, if i could bother you for help. ![17408566040538842527006781020185](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/3X/4/1/41a2e65206d35ed91614733dc006014462bf8a05.jpeg) ![17408567008686447836134147289113](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/3X/f/1/f1e207ee69b697095e8645f38a74bf520e605655.jpeg) ![17408567201426004482902532580769](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/3X/3/5/3548a60a9344b0af07436ee54699436ce7f54835.jpeg) ![1740856748879397233742943400807](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/3X/4/5/4571a1505d6daabe5ad09fd3be3930a922e9af64.jpeg) You couldnt tell me which wires go to which trying change out a faulty converter. Regards Paul ---
**Author:** ![David\_Illingworth](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/david_illingworth/32/2671_2.png) [@David\_Illingworth](https://community.electricforum.com/u/David_Illingworth)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dc-dc-converter-removal/18274/14 "2025-03-01T21:09:33Z")
Both red wires on new converter go to orange/yellow wire. Small black wire on new converter to orange/black wire. Yellow on new converter to red. Big black on new converter to black