# Dave’s 220v Gen car Charger J1772 Ready

**URL:** <https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820>\
**Category:** GEM Forum\
**Created:** [April 8, 2019, 11:12pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820 "2019-04-08T23:12:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820/21 "2019-05-06T17:18:46Z")

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@grantwest I have a DQ off board charger but no programmer. 🙂

![MVC-013F](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/9/989cd8666f6a8b2ccddf0a00ba6890930a471dac.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![grantwest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/grantwest/32/15_2.png) [@grantwest](https://community.electricforum.com/u/grantwest)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820/22 "2019-05-06T17:26:34Z")

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Dave do U want me to send back the programmer and then you program and send the off board charger out or do u want me to hold on to it and program it here.  
I don’t mind sending it and the Chargery in right away

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820/23 "2019-05-06T18:50:31Z")

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I don’t know. Should be getting the other prog back soon.  
I can get it sent tomorrow if you want to program it.  
Wait a day to see what I get in the mail.

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820/24 "2019-05-07T15:21:21Z")

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@grantwest Send the programmer back. While waiting I’m getting new ideas.  
Here I built the J1772 comms into a DQ charger. 12v supplied when connected to Gem battery.  
Plug 2 wire anderson into Gem. Power it from public charging station.  
This will add $250 to the price of a DQ or use the DQ to J1772 adapter box shown previous.  
The Vehicle input wires were not shortened, as I’m not sure how this might work for you.  
 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/3/3c6e99ea7fe7db65ece23b600024193facf1bf76.jpeg)

![MVC-015F](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/7/76e12d5660ce1fbee42593dbab8ae5a3286e9a42.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![grantwest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/grantwest/32/15_2.png) [@grantwest](https://community.electricforum.com/u/grantwest)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 12:41am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820/25 "2019-05-08T00:41:24Z")

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I guess it would be cool if the J1172 plug had a 3-4 foot pig tail coming off the charger so you could remote mount the J1172 plug box.

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820/26 "2019-07-23T18:24:02Z")

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Some success with the 29a J1772 charger. It seems to go to 103v. Needs more testing to see if it still does cc/cv or if it needs to depend on a bms.  
Project will probably go on the back burner again, as I haven’t sold any yet. Well, I did sell a couple as is to a buddy in Iowa, as-is. He loves them at 86v stock.  
@grantwest, is testing still on the schedule? As normal, I’ll need a guinea pig with lots of time on their hands.  
I will try to customize one. Using J1772 will be easier for me, but I can dumbify it if needed.  
As of now I can only raise the voltage, but will consider reducing output as well.

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820/27 "2019-07-23T18:26:50Z")

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@grantwest  
ps.  
If you’re up for it, I may be able to instruct you on the modification, so there would be no need to ship it back and forth.

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820/28 "2019-07-23T21:26:45Z")

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I’ll start here:

Find these 3 pads. All are B+ out.  
Goal is to cut trace where easy to get at. Use exacto-knife or bit in a tip cleaner drill.  
 ![MVC-010F](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/3/3d489c0cffe57d39de8b8e478baf963d4099dc21.jpeg) ![MVC-011F](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/c/ceb7f9bb92be425d4e04899a4ed88121741b931c.jpeg) ![MVC-012F](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/3/32bd1209b4f35d2d66f1b2c40b6ae0636bf7a851.jpeg) ![MVC-013F](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/4/4903cdf87d07828ec29149e01c378431bdcf3fe8.jpeg)  
Find this area and orientation of charger.

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820/29 "2019-07-23T21:33:33Z")

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After cutting trace in 2nd picture, (middle of board), Check for lost continuity from B+ out pad to bottom pad in 1st picture.

When some brave soul gets this far. I’ll post the single component hack.

@grantwest if no time or desire, their are a few on here up for the task. Catch is that they need a J1772 charging station to test it.  
You could send the sample charger direct to them rather than returning it.

It needs to be tested before the hack to get a baseline. 86v

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**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 3:02am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820/30 "2019-07-24T03:02:03Z")

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Wow Dave is the MAN 103 Volts!!!  
At 29 Amps!!! Ok I’ll get my 220 hooked up right away. My 2013 with the J2772 plug is good to go

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**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 3:18am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820/31 "2019-07-24T03:18:32Z")

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Oh crap, forgot the watt limit. Need it tested on 120v until I hack the current too.  
It will blow up at 2,900 w output.  
You need to test it on an 86v battery first. Need a baseline before mods.  
If you can’t find the time, I think I can talk @RS_E6 into it. He can tap his green pack for test voltages.

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**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 4:08am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820/32 "2019-07-24T04:08:35Z")

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I was going to say I don’t have 220V service in my garage (unless I steal it from my HVAC unit).

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 12:19am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820/33 "2020-01-15T00:19:10Z")

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@khauner is doing a 24s lithium upgrade.  
These may also charge 25s adequately. If not I can adjust them up 3.2v.  
$450 charger and J1772 inlet only. As shown!  
**DEALERS!**  
Quantity pricing available.

![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/4/493c0b156bf383ec657d8839399da717599ec0ce.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820/34 "2020-07-03T17:54:12Z")

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This is great! By chance do you have a 48 volt option?

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820/35 "2020-07-03T20:15:29Z")

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No, but maybe you can switch to 72v ac power.

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**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 6:31am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820/36 "2020-11-21T06:31:55Z")

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@Inwo I stumbled upon this thread, hoping it is still valid!

I have an old 05 GEM e4 with a Quick Charge 7210 charger on it. I still have the Delta Q mounted as well, but it failed many years ago.

Seeing this, I would love to be able to charge my NEV using J1771 connectors around the community. I also have a Tesla wall connector at home, but not looking to reverse engineer that at all.

The Batteries are NAPA GELs.

Am I understanding correctly I can rip out the Delta Q, the Quick Charge, and replace it with this charger and J1771 and it will function on both 220 and 120 (with an adapter cable)?

Ideally, I would still like to be able to charge on 120 when I am at home.

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**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 1:44pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820/37 "2020-11-21T13:44:27Z")

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Yes, that’s how it works.  
If you want the new DQ charger to connect easily, I would need the original DQ for the oem Gem cables.  
To charge at home, I can supply a 120v to J1772 cord.

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**Author:** ![grantwest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/grantwest/32/15_2.png) [@grantwest](https://community.electricforum.com/u/grantwest)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820/38 "2020-11-21T15:44:03Z")

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I have a New Delta Q that I got from Dave.  
That’s set up for J1772 Charging. I never ended up using it. It’s got the j1772 installed  
And everything to put it in your car

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**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820/39 "2020-11-21T19:36:44Z")

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> [@grantwest](#):
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> I have a New Delta Q that I got from Dave.  
> That’s set up for J1772 Charging. I never ended up using it. It’s got the j1772 installed  
> And everything to put it in your car

There ya go. Just what’s needed.

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/dave-s-220v-gen-car-charger-j1772-ready/15820/40 "2020-11-24T02:10:27Z")

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Thanks Grant, I reached out via Direct Message, but not sure if that is working.

This sounds great. Would we need to change anything on the charging profile for the GELs we have? I am guessing the Delta Q is a better charger than what we have now anyway.

What are you asking for the charger/inlet? We are in Celebration FL, 34747

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