# ANVIL 7.5kw motor like the 8kw Kinetek

**URL:** <https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526>\
**Category:** GEM Forum\
**Created:** [June 13, 2023, 3:28am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526 "2023-06-13T03:28:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![And1939](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@And1939](https://community.electricforum.com/u/And1939)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 6:53pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526/41 "2023-10-10T18:53:09Z")

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Sounds good.

From what I am reading a USB cable only has 4 wires so there has to be some that are doubled up.

If thats the case I can build the cable and will be in good shape to play around to try and program one of these things.

Adding the loops is easy too.

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**Author:** ![MikeKC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 10:21pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526/42 "2023-10-10T22:21:51Z")

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I was incorrect. I have the programming plug.  
Four wires and two loops.

Only four wires terminated at the usb end.

 ![IMG_5026](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/2/2db7aa616f4950533d16de477819867db5929d73.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_5025](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/b/b2fb9b4681ac82e3a089db150c2ee23cf5b9a759.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_5024](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/4/45df4f71d8d8ec07cd7c440b82d1ddfdfedb081f.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_5023](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/2/2207761fd966005a3b1c96b2d42e89f3605e84aa.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![And1939](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@And1939](https://community.electricforum.com/u/And1939)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 2:16am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526/43 "2023-10-11T02:16:42Z")

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Sweet.

I am going to play with my controller and if i can get the PC to work on it I will let you know.

Then we can play with programming one of yours.

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**Author:** ![And1939](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@And1939](https://community.electricforum.com/u/And1939)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 3:17am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526/44 "2023-10-11T03:17:47Z")

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If you unplug the 4 pin are the red an black in the square pins. This picture just has it rotated opposite.

 ![Screenshot_20231010_230622_Gallery](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/d/da10f5c273bdb6326fa3f1f7ff808d03e4850ef7.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![MikeKC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 1:03pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526/45 "2023-10-11T13:03:55Z")

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It is the same part number. so it is likely the same.

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**Author:** ![MikeKC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 10:37pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526/46 "2023-10-12T22:37:19Z")

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Yes, mine is the same pin out colors and locations as yours.

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**Author:** ![And1939](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@And1939](https://community.electricforum.com/u/And1939)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 8:10am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526/47 "2023-10-17T08:10:17Z")

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I am just messing around with my PC to get the USB drivers to work with the dongle.

This tech is so old compared to the new computers

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**Author:** ![djgabriel2004](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/djgabriel2004/32/12304_2.png) [@djgabriel2004](https://community.electricforum.com/u/djgabriel2004)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 4:06pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526/48 "2023-10-17T16:06:56Z")

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Create a VM with win 7 or xp

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**Author:** ![MikeKC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 8:48pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526/49 "2023-10-17T20:48:30Z")

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I was able to get the software running and able to see the programming cable under Windows 10. I was just never able to power the correct place on the controller to get it to talk.

I just sent the controller and programming cable off to another person to attempt communication with an Anvil and spare controller.

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526/50 "2023-10-17T20:51:00Z")

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The dongle is on loan and should be available to others in time.

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**Author:** ![And1939](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@And1939](https://community.electricforum.com/u/And1939)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526/51 "2023-10-18T23:43:35Z")

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I put in a new controller and now the Anvil runs but only after i give it a slight push to get started. Any idea what could cause this. I ordered a new speed controller to see if that helps.

My windows 10 cannot detect the drivers even though the dongle shows up as a device.

The cables on My Anvil to hook up to the dongle are much different than what is in the instructions so no sure what the right wires will be.

I just know that USB is only 4 wires. 2 communication and 1 power and 1 ground

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**Author:** ![And1939](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@And1939](https://community.electricforum.com/u/And1939)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 11:44pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526/52 "2023-10-18T23:44:23Z")

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Speed sensor not controller

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**Author:** ![MikeKC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 11:59pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526/53 "2023-10-18T23:59:24Z")

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> [@And1939](#):
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> I put in a new controller and now the Anvil runs but only after i give it a slight push

Were did you get a new controller? Did you load one or find a used one?

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**Author:** ![And1939](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@And1939](https://community.electricforum.com/u/And1939)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526/54 "2023-10-19T00:22:00Z")

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Tomberlin directly had one.

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**Author:** ![And1939](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@And1939](https://community.electricforum.com/u/And1939)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 12:23am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526/55 "2023-10-19T00:23:33Z")

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But it only works if i turn the rear wheels manually after I Jack it up or let it roll when its on the ground.

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**Author:** ![And1939](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@And1939](https://community.electricforum.com/u/And1939)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 12:24am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526/56 "2023-10-19T00:24:11Z")

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I may just rip it out and put in a Navitas Controller and Motor

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 3:03am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526/57 "2023-10-19T03:03:17Z")

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That will be kind of underpowered.  
Anvil oem motor will push 50mph.  
I have a replacement Sevcon controller, If you can wait a few day for a client to test it.  
It’s been a few years since I did my own, so I’m seeing if it can be diy.  
Otherwise, if you are near someone with dvt, they could help.

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**Author:** ![And1939](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@And1939](https://community.electricforum.com/u/And1939)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 3:27am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526/58 "2023-10-19T03:27:23Z")

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Any idea why it would behave like this. If the new controler is good then its either the motor or speed sensor.

Everything was fine then after a week sitting in the garage it just jerkwd a few times then nothing until i put in the new controller.

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 12:27pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526/59 "2023-10-19T12:27:33Z")

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Might be throttle pot if it’s only super slow.  
It would lurch slightly but not develope any torque.

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**Author:** ![And1939](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@And1939](https://community.electricforum.com/u/And1939)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 2:03pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/anvil-7-5kw-motor-like-the-8kw-kinetek/26526/60 "2023-10-19T14:03:30Z")

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I was thinking the same but if i just slightly roll it with my foot or am on an incline the Anvil with get up to full speed and drive fine.

Its just has to get 1 tooth past the speed sensor and then it will spin

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