# AGM battery **URL:** \ **Category:** GEM Forum\ **Created:** [November 28, 2015, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637 "2015-11-28T17:02:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637/1 "2015-11-28T17:02:50Z")
Feeling well enough to tackle my delta-q again. Found reference to my 32 installed alg. Very interesting… My best bet may be adding an agm charger, and leaving things the way they are. Can I add alg’s with the programmer? Looks like NOT!!! The GEM chargers have a customized algorithm and software package designed especially for GEM Cars, you will notice the algorithm package does not contain any settings for AGM batteries in the charger as GEM chooses not to support their use in their vehicles. In contrast to the majority of our product range, the GEM specific QuiQ’s cannot have additional algorithms loaded into them. 13 GEM Trojan dv/dt 14 GEM DEKA 8G31 gel dv/dt 15 GEM DEKA 8G31 gel recovery 24 GEM DEKA high capacity gel dv/dt 25 GEM DEKA high capacity gel recovery 32 DEKA EV31 dv/dt ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637/2 "2015-11-28T17:06:47Z")
Now I’m getting someplace.🙂 Gem chargers have a different fault table. 1 blink is temperature, not high voltage.😉 ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637/3 "2015-11-28T17:59:42Z")
I have never seen so much bad information as Gem manual and Delta\_Q manual. :mad::mad: I’m an electronic guy and it’s taken me a week to sort this out. I should sell the information I’ve learned.😃 Trouble tree plainly states to disconnect temperature sensor to test for charger function. I also jumpered in case manual mis-stated. No go! Then after finding a DQ with built in inverter on DQ site, I see 10k NTC listed as a necessary accessory. 1 blink[B] IS[/B] temp. fault in my model. Connect 10k in place of thermistor and I’m charging.:clap2::clap2::clap2: Now if Rodney will tell me the down side of alg. 32 (32=DEKA EV31 dv/dt) with agms I’ll be golden. ---
**Author:** ![Bugman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Bugman](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Bugman)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 6:04pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637/4 "2015-11-28T18:04:01Z")
I have been trying to change to a agm algo on my 2011 gem 2. Tried several different ways. Got info from Delta Q tapping positive wire to change algo don’t feel comfortable doing that.Guess I will have to think programing with computer. But I am not computer friendly:mad:. Got 14 on algo may have to stay with Deka 8g31.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 6:08pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637/5 "2015-11-28T18:08:02Z")
> [@Bugman;28052](#): > > I have been trying to change to a agm algo on my 2011 gem 2. Tried several different ways. Got info from Delta Q tapping positive wire to change algo don’t feel comfortable doing that.Guess I will have to think programing with computer. But I am not computer friendly:mad:. Got 14 on algo may have to stay with Deka 8g31.🙂 Quote from D-Q The GEM chargers have a customized algorithm and software package designed especially for GEM Cars, you will notice the algorithm package does not contain any settings for AGM batteries in the charger as GEM chooses not to support their use in their vehicles. In contrast to the majority of our product range, the GEM specific QuiQ’s cannot have additional algorithms loaded into them. ---
**Author:** ![Bugman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Bugman](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Bugman)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637/6 "2015-11-28T18:19:15Z")
Yes I bought a new gem in 2013 dealer installed agm batteries but left algo to gel now 2 years later I am having battery problems I was hoping some way of changing to agm algo guess dealer done me wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 6:20pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637/7 "2015-11-28T18:20:29Z")
Saved enough money to buy a programmer. Only way I’ll know if I can dump a new alg. in my Gem charger. If I can’t, I’ll resell it or lend it out. Might be able to hack it.🙂 ps. Done deal $185 delivered next week. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Houseboater](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/old_houseboater/32/544_2.png) [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637/8 "2015-11-28T22:39:54Z")
Use the Flooded setting with the AGM. This is new information with me.Gel setting under charges them. I posted an article awhile back from a battery manufacturer that stated use any program that does NOT have the word Gel in it, (Vmax Batteries) More info. Serial numbers starting with DQCP are not programmable. Serial numbers starting with DQCT, DQCR, DQCM and all DQDx are all programmable. What is Algorithm 32? I cant find any info on it. I hate Delta Q’s ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 11:12pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637/9 "2015-11-28T23:12:18Z")
[quote=OLD HOUSEBOATER;28063] What is Algorithm 32? I cant find any info on it. I hate Delta Q’s[/quote] See post #1 32 DEKA EV31 dv/dt I don’t know what that means!😕 ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 11:27pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637/10 "2015-11-28T23:27:09Z")
Crap, here’s a cheaper programmer… [Delta-Q QuiQ-DCI On-Board 48V Battery Charger & DC/DC Converter 922-4854](http://www.evdrives.com/product_p/cgr-922-4854.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Houseboater](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/old_houseboater/32/544_2.png) [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 11:30pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637/11 "2015-11-28T23:30:55Z")
This article seems to support charging AGM on flooded setting. [Fast charging of sealed lead acid batteries, SLA, VRLA batteries can be charged fast.](http://www.powerstream.com/SLA-fast-charge.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637/12 "2015-11-28T23:35:46Z")
See available settings in post one. I’ll try changing tomorrow. Will #32 be ok? ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Houseboater](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/old_houseboater/32/544_2.png) [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637/13 "2015-11-28T23:42:21Z")
Deka 31 is AGM batteries. You should be good to go. Where did you find that info? ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 11:46pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637/14 "2015-11-28T23:46:39Z")
[http://federalbatteries.com.au/SPECIAL-PURPOSE/ELECTRIC-VEHICLES/](http://federalbatteries.com.au/SPECIAL-PURPOSE/ELECTRIC-VEHICLES/) No DV… ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Houseboater](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/old_houseboater/32/544_2.png) [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 11:56pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637/15 "2015-11-28T23:56:10Z")
Deka 8A31DT 105 hour 12 volt AGM battery ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 12:03am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637/16 "2015-11-29T00:03:20Z")
Hmmm, it does for me. I wasn’t logged in or anything. home: [Deka Batteries](http://www.dekabatteries.com.au/) special battery EV batteries ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 12:04am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637/17 "2015-11-29T00:04:11Z")
Then I’m golden. Should I monitor voltage? Don’t you have to sleep sometime? ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 12:09am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637/18 "2015-11-29T00:09:05Z")
Now that I can set my fuel gauge. What voltage would I set to 1/2 full? I set it to 90% @ 78.1 to start. Think that’s too high. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Houseboater](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/old_houseboater/32/544_2.png) [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637/19 "2015-11-29T00:18:38Z")
Times 6 [https://www.google.com/search?q=batteries+voltage+state+of+charge+chart+agm&biw=1424&bih=666&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiFv5TQmLXJAhVMMSYKHX5NAocQsAQIGw&dpr=0.83#imgrc=dtoeCqfPSWqHdM%3A](https://www.google.com/search?q=batteries+voltage+state+of+charge+chart+agm&biw=1424&bih=666&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiFv5TQmLXJAhVMMSYKHX5NAocQsAQIGw&dpr=0.83#imgrc=dtoeCqfPSWqHdM%3A) ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 6:26am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/agm-battery/5637/20 "2015-11-29T06:26:31Z")
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