# Adding battery to Gem

**URL:** <https://community.electricforum.com/t/adding-battery-to-gem/5814>\
**Category:** GEM Forum\
**Created:** [March 3, 2016, 8:48am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/adding-battery-to-gem/5814 "2016-03-03T08:48:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2016, 8:48am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/adding-battery-to-gem/5814/1 "2016-03-03T08:48:43Z")

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This came up in another thread.  
We (kinghappy) have been discussing the option of perking up performance with addition of 3-6 volts to battery pack.

Plan on doing some testing as time permits.

Received a quote for 10 amp single cell 3.65 lithium chargers. $35 delivered. With sample order of 10 pcs.

They also make a 20 amp version for + $10.

I’m going to wait a few days to see if anyone wants in.

Most of these are over $100 retail.  
There is a cheap plastic one on Ebay for $28 + $17.

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**Author:** ![IssaquahWA1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/91b2a8/32.png) [@IssaquahWA1979](https://community.electricforum.com/u/IssaquahWA1979)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2016, 1:04pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/adding-battery-to-gem/5814/2 "2016-03-03T13:04:39Z")

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I seriously caution you using cheap Lithium chargers, especially LiOn I am sure you have seen the exploding batteries in E-Cigs and hoverboards? There is a lot of thought going into those cases that the chargers are actually to blame vs. the battery itself. Just saying be cautious…

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2016, 2:45pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/adding-battery-to-gem/5814/3 "2016-03-03T14:45:18Z")

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Thanks, this is only cheap in price.  
It is made by a large lithium battery manufacturer.

LifePO4

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**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 5:06pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/adding-battery-to-gem/5814/4 "2016-03-06T17:06:40Z")

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Dave,

good price but you could easily get away with a smaller amp charger . a 60ah lithium battery is about equivalent to a 100ah la battery . so even a 5ah lipo charger would recharge a single cell fast enough . I assume you are going to connect it so it independently charges while you plug in the main charger .

this could be like adding a turbo to a standard battery pack.

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 6:20pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/adding-battery-to-gem/5814/5 "2016-03-06T18:20:40Z")

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That’s what I’m thinking.

They have a 20A for a couple bucks more.

Holding off for a while. Can’t catch up on my other projects.

Looking at “hybrid auto” for leaf packs. Hard to justify lead.

My one Gem only gets 9 miles before limping. ☹

My 48v tomberlin has good 48v flooded but is a dog. Don’t know what to do first.

Do you think a kit would sell? Or just the chargers, if it worked out?

Do you thing I should go with a single leaf cell?  
The LiFePo4 might be safer.

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**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/adding-battery-to-gem/5814/6 "2016-03-06T18:45:25Z")

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the leaf’s don’t come as a single cell , there are 2 in a module , in series .

lifepo4 would be fine . remember leaf/ chevy volt are all limn cells . higher voltage ( 4.2v max)then the traditional lifepo4 cells (3.65v max) . make sure you get the right compatible charger .

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/adding-battery-to-gem/5814/7 "2016-03-06T18:52:58Z")

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Would have to add minimum 2 cells then. 8.4 volt max.

Better price than lifepo4 I think. Watt for watt.

8.4v 10a charger is a little more money. $50

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**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/adding-battery-to-gem/5814/8 "2016-03-06T18:59:59Z")

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leaf cells are great bang for the buck
