# 2023 Gem E6 more distance

**URL:** <https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424>\
**Category:** GEM Forum\
**Created:** [May 23, 2023, 3:28pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424 "2023-05-23T15:28:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kherman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kherman1](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Kherman1)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 3:28pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424/1 "2023-05-23T15:28:57Z")

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What are some kits that I could buy to get more distance? Also I was looking into buying a 48v 100ah battery on Amazon and just connect it to the existing batteries and having a reserve backup power once the factory batteries died. If anyone can give me advice or links that would be great. I also want to make it fast charge capable. Thanks

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 3:32pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424/2 "2023-05-23T15:32:38Z")

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@djgabriel2004 and @LithiumGods specialize in long distance batteries for new Gems.  
Not a good idea to parallel any battery. Much less a lithium to a non protected lead battery.  
Stay away from any Generic battery. The new Gems are finicky and need a purpose built battery from someone who knows Gems.

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**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424/3 "2023-05-23T16:34:31Z")

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^^ What Inwo just said.

> If anyone can give me advice or links

Tough to give personalized advice without knowing more about the scenario.

When initiating a request like this, it helps to include some info

- what car you have? (year, model)
- how you are using the car? (purpose)
- environment? (speed, range, terrain)
- who will be doing this install? If you, What is your skill set? What is in your toolbox? (some of these mods are not easy if all you have is a hammer)

Fast charge is nice, but possibly unnecessary. In most cases a proper sized battery may be what you need.

Disclaimer:  
Also be aware that any suggestions offered here should be considered experimental, will probably void your factory warranty, and may cause your car to lose some of it’s factory features.

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**Author:** ![Kherman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kherman1](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Kherman1)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 4:36pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424/4 "2023-05-23T16:36:31Z")

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I am using my 2023 Gem E6 for a shuttle / tour vehicle and I’m trying to get the most miledge. I like to stay between 10-20 mph. I have all the tools and have worked on machines before and have plenty of help.

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**Author:** ![djgabriel2004](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/djgabriel2004/32/12304_2.png) [@djgabriel2004](https://community.electricforum.com/u/djgabriel2004)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 7:53pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424/5 "2023-05-23T19:53:47Z")

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I supply batteries for shuttles in Naples, ohio, Vegas and Arizona

Which charger do you have? And what kind of range are you expecting

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**Author:** ![Kherman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kherman1](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Kherman1)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 9:45pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424/6 "2023-05-23T21:45:32Z")

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I have the base charger and I would like to get 60miles to a charge more if possible…

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**Author:** ![djgabriel2004](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/djgabriel2004/32/12304_2.png) [@djgabriel2004](https://community.electricforum.com/u/djgabriel2004)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 9:56pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424/7 "2023-05-23T21:56:35Z")

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Where are you located again pls?

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**Author:** ![Kherman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kherman1](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Kherman1)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 10:07pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424/8 "2023-05-23T22:07:51Z")

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Near Madison, WI about 30 mins north

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 1:48am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424/9 "2023-05-24T01:48:19Z")

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Not too far from me, but i don’t have 48v batteries.  
I have access to Goliath. Is that doable? 16s  
That would be a good excuse to get them here.

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**Author:** ![Kherman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kherman1](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Kherman1)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 2:48am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424/10 "2023-05-24T02:48:08Z")

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Tell me how the 16s would work

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**Author:** ![djgabriel2004](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/djgabriel2004/32/12304_2.png) [@djgabriel2004](https://community.electricforum.com/u/djgabriel2004)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 6:43am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424/11 "2023-05-24T06:43:39Z")

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Goliath would work, bigger than Polaris big lithium

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**Author:** ![Kherman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kherman1](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Kherman1)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 6:57am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424/12 "2023-05-24T06:57:15Z")

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How much would that cost?

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 10:39am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424/13 "2023-05-24T10:39:14Z")

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About $4k. I need to consult with Gabe on requirements.  
There are certain issues with very large capacity batteries.  
Minor inconveniences, but need to be addressed.

1. Cars are programmed to a fixed mileage before recharging. Even if more battery capacity is available.  
Gabe and Michael, have methods to deal with this. I don’t have a Gem here to test and rely on their experience.
2. Car must have aux battery option.

I need a couple weeks notice. Batteries are in kcmo.  
Need to see in @MikeKC is willing to put them on a pallet, or if I can arrange U-ship delivery.

 ![20210909_161354](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/6/6124bd40752b2230eca9b958a240255a16fc51d1.jpeg)

2 x 6.85kwh

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**Author:** ![Kherman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kherman1](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Kherman1)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 1:08pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424/14 "2023-05-24T13:08:03Z")

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So how far would this get me rough estimate? 4k just for batteries then what is total including shipping?

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424/15 "2023-05-24T13:50:55Z")

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![Gem battery range](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/3/39b7856279664bdd322c764d8bd58d1fd42168f9.gif)  
Compare to my 13.7kwh battery.  
50 to 75 mile range from Polaris chart.

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**Author:** ![Kherman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kherman1](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Kherman1)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 2:14pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424/16 "2023-05-24T14:14:38Z")

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This one for 4k is only 6.5kwh?

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 2:35pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424/17 "2023-05-24T14:35:42Z")

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13.7kwh battery only.  
E6?

![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/1/13038a249b6316dd18a90fd4761c3fc1e1ab99ab.png)

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**Author:** ![Kherman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kherman1](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Kherman1)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 3:34pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424/18 "2023-05-24T15:34:09Z")

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Oh ok so you are going to check in with some other people

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**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 4:00pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424/19 "2023-05-24T16:00:02Z")

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Hey @Kherman1 - Since this sounds like a new car, Why didn’t you order the extended range pack when you got it?

What pack is in this car and what kind of range are you getting from it?

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**Author:** ![Kherman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kherman1](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Kherman1)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2023-gem-e6-more-distance/26424/20 "2023-05-24T16:37:45Z")

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Expensive from factory

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