# 2016+ High voltage conversion… successful!✅
**URL:** https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001
**Category:** GEM Forum
**Created:** [July 27, 2021, 1:38am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001 "2021-07-27T01:38:25Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@djgabriel2004](https://community.electricforum.com/u/djgabriel2004)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2021, 1:38am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001/1 "2021-07-27T01:38:25Z")
This post is to make public How thankful I am with @Inwo and @MikeKC for being so Helpful and working with me in this project.
I remember my First thoughts were
“my Gem is working perfectly, should I do it”?
What if it doesn’t work like I expect?
What if I have to bring it to the dealership because I couldn’t make it work again?
I’ve decided to look forward, forget about All these questions And go ahead with the mods.
I went with a 25S Tesla Model 3 Battery and brought it to 100v system (from 48v)
8kW induction Motor
Sevcon S4
I wanted a Can enabled charger with Tesla port so I didn’t go with deltaQ (but it would Have been easier with that)
I’m also very happy with @Old_Houseboater 10:35 modified transmission for a quieter ride.
Mike and Dave are amazing and they will follow you from Start to finish.
They will send you the controller already programmed so you don’t have to mess with the config.
The process is very straight forward. If you know how to wire a Bms you can do this mod.
Conclusions:
I don’t know the max speed yet, but it’s a lot (probably in the high 50’s) @MikeKC correct me if I’m wrong.
The acceleration is slow for a comfort ride unless you hammer it.
Regen braking feels like a Tesla (can be adjusted)
I used to have a GEM, now I have a hot rod.
I will update this thread with some range testing.
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### Author:  [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2021, 2:48am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001/2 "2021-07-27T02:48:22Z")
Very kind words and I am happy you are happy 🙂
They don’t always go smooth and looking back at our thread of 486 posts…wow, but you got there
We clearly don’t do this for the money… LOL. Just passing on knowledge.
I should add that almost everything I have learned came from @Inwo (the master)
My car setup is almost exactly like @djgabriel2004 when it comes to battery/gears/motor, my top end is about ~62mph - way to fast for my own (or your) good. Be careful out there.
I estimate more than 60 miles on a charge but have never put that to the test.
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### Author:  [@djgabriel2004](https://community.electricforum.com/u/djgabriel2004)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2021, 3:10am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001/3 "2021-07-27T03:10:27Z")
> [@MikeKC](#):
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> They don’t always go smooth and looking back at our thread of 486 posts…wow, but you got there
Ppl Don’t get intimidated by this, They were a lot of off topics in the middle 🤣
You can definitely see that they Love the Gems and each Successful conversion makes them happy as it was their own car.
The money they charge for the kit is nothing compared with Amazing service they provide.
Should I post some pics of my GEM ?
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### Author:  [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2021, 3:14am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001/4 "2021-07-27T03:14:01Z")
> [@djgabriel2004](#):
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> Should I post some pics of my GEM ?
We like (gem) p0rn here…
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### Author:  [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2021, 3:22am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001/5 "2021-07-27T03:22:11Z")
Pics? Absolutely
Did not happen without pics.
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### Author:  [@Swatpilot](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Swatpilot)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2021, 3:36am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001/6 "2021-07-27T03:36:38Z")
Yes, pictures please. I just picked up my Gem e4 on Saturday. I want to convert it maybe this winter.
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### Author:  [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2021, 10:27pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001/7 "2021-07-27T22:27:26Z")
Would like to see pics of transmission install.
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### Author:  [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2021, 10:29pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001/8 "2021-07-27T22:29:21Z")
Mike what diameter tires?
Rodney
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### Author:  [@djgabriel2004](https://community.electricforum.com/u/djgabriel2004)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2021, 11:26pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001/9 "2021-07-27T23:26:35Z")
Here some pics I took. Not the best ones it was getting dark and the storm was coming
10:35 Transmission from Older Gems modified by the Best @Old_Houseboater. it’s so quiet even without the rubber bumpers. (I might add them in the future but it’s very quiet so far)
8KW motor. (A beast) from @MikeKC and @Inwo the Gem Gurus.
Speed controller (not show in pictures) will fit in the Same place as the old one, same shape, same screws, same connector.
30A Canbus enabled charging with Tesla port
Tesla Model 3/Y 25s lithium battery with BMS that broadcast the Data over internet so I can check the status of the car when charging at Public stations from my phone.
Processing: 5D6B00E7-EC3A-4BEF-9F6D-79B92F876D39.jpeg…
I still going to mod some things in the back to make it waterproof and remove that box with Victron shunt since the BMS is now taking care of everything related to the battery and I can see all the data on the Android screen
Here are some pics. Battery is in the middle of the seats, it doesn’t bother passengers or driver but is long!
I will definitely cover it with something, I was thinking a marine carpet but I’m open to ideas…
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### Author:  [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2021, 12:55am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001/10 "2021-07-28T00:55:03Z")
> [@djgabriel2004](#):
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> 30A Canbus enabled charging with Tesla port
Could you please elaborate a bit here? I’m not that familiar with Tesla charging setups. Does this mean you are using a Tesla charger at home or, more importantly (to me anyway), that you can plug your GEM in at a Tesla Supercharger station?
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### Author:  [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2021, 1:49am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001/11 "2021-07-28T01:49:53Z")
> [@Old\_Houseboater](#):
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> Mike what diameter tires?
Just over 23" total height.
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### Author:  [@djgabriel2004](https://community.electricforum.com/u/djgabriel2004)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2021, 3:59am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001/12 "2021-07-28T03:59:42Z")
> [@JarJarJava](#):
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> Could you please elaborate a bit here? I’m not that familiar with Tesla charging setups. Does this mean you are using a Tesla charger at home or, more importantly (to me anyway), that you can plug your GEM in at a Tesla Supercharger station?
The GEM can charge the with any level 1 (120v) or level 2 (240v) public station. It could be Tesla destination Charger network or Any J1772 like Chargepoint (with the Tesla Adapter)
Tesla supercharger is Not supported.
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### Author:  [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2021, 8:30pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001/13 "2021-08-07T20:30:38Z")
@LithiumGods
Motor is drilled
Controller programmed
Harness built
Now you need a car 🙂
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### Author:  [@djgabriel2004](https://community.electricforum.com/u/djgabriel2004)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001/14 "2021-08-07T21:11:30Z")
@MaxAtMaxMarine here you go for some temptation!
inviting mike @MaxAtMaxMarine to this convo, he’s about to get an E6 and work with @LithiumGods in a similar setup like Mine.
Welcome aboard feel free to ask questions to the gurus @Inwo and @MikeKC
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### Author:  [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2021, 10:06pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001/15 "2021-08-07T22:06:13Z")
Is this the one prepared for Michael? Or another one.
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### Author:  [@MaxAtMaxMarine](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MaxAtMaxMarine)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2021, 1:31am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001/16 "2021-08-08T01:31:55Z")
I met Gabriel looking at a classic Gem he has for sale that I didn’t buy. Since then, he’s given me a lot of intel on his build. I know Mike aka Lithium Gods from another forum - we have the same boat, the same appetite for reinventing the wheel, and sometimes we do a halfway-decent job of it.
I’ve always wanted something to drive around the neighborhood so when a 2002 e825 came up cheap, I jumped on it. I’ve had the '02 for a little over a month, love it, drive it everywhere but perhaps most importantly, the wife loves driving it too. We have two car seats installed for the kiddos, but I want a more refined ride, faster, etc and with a growing family + in-laws, I prefer a 6 passenger. We’ll be taking delivery Monday of a 2016 e6. Mike and I will be refitting this Gem jointly.
So far, we are planning an upgraded motor and controller, lithium upgrade, and an upgraded transmission - I’m sure there will be more. The goal is to have a car that gets up and goes, 40mph+ (plan on only using 35 of that), and perhaps most importantly…a quiet ride.
My background is in marine electronics, but my passion is tinkering and building stuff. Looking forward to sharing our progress just as many of you have done.
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### Author:  [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2021, 2:45am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001/17 "2021-08-08T02:45:50Z")
I have the parts that LG ordered ready to ship. Listed above. Just need the payment from LG and they can go FedEx monday.
Should be everything but batteries and dci charger, which LG will have.
Transmission is optional and can be done last. If E6 is 17:1 it will run 35mph at 9,000 rpm.
I’m testing my 2018 el hd on 48v lead. Smooth and relatively quiet at 35mph. Transmission is stock with added rubber mounts.
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### Author:  [@djgabriel2004](https://community.electricforum.com/u/djgabriel2004)
#### Post date: [August 9, 2021, 1:29am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001/18 "2021-08-09T01:29:14Z")
I know @LithiumGods wanted a 2016+ but I’m not sure if the kit you have ready is for his or for @MaxAtMaxMarine E6
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### Author:  [@MaxAtMaxMarine](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MaxAtMaxMarine)
#### Post date: [August 9, 2021, 1:48am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001/19 "2021-08-09T01:48:27Z")
Same kit, same car. Did you ever figure out how to mount a \<2015 trunk on a 2016+?
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### Author:  [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)
#### Post date: [August 9, 2021, 2:03am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2016-high-voltage-conversion-successful/22001/20 "2021-08-09T02:03:44Z")
> [@djgabriel2004](#):
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> but I’m not sure if the kit you have ready
No matter, boxed up and ready to go. Only one motor is drilled so it depends on transmission.
Anyone else ready? Pm for price.
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