# 2014 Gem

**URL:** <https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128>\
**Category:** Uncategorized\
**Created:** [December 22, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128 "2018-12-22T19:24:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128/121 "2019-01-10T00:00:22Z")

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Any luck with the batteries today? I know the agent was looking for another carrier.

Can I run the B- of my BMS, 10awg to the negative of the controller? The negative lug on the controller is the end of the battery string…if that makes sense.

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 12:58am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128/122 "2019-01-10T00:58:56Z")

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Shipping company needed labels on the pallet so I did that for them. Don’t know much else.

That should work same as at battery B-.

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 1:08am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128/123 "2019-01-10T01:08:33Z")

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That’s what I figured. Let’s keepmour fingers crossed for tomorrow.

My box is finished up. Had to put a 120v dc to dc converter for my cooling fan. No where to run a constant 12v with the key off.

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128/124 "2019-01-12T14:40:59Z")

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Good morning Dave, I’m hoping those batteries were picked up. I haven’t heard anything from my friend saying they weren’t. Let me know!

Was laying in bed last night thinking…my downfall…do I have to take any precautions with my dc to dc converter being that I’m running a higher voltage?

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128/125 "2019-01-12T15:47:05Z")

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I’ll check later.

Most converters work over a wide range of voltages.  
The main contactor coil may run hot. A current limit resistor can fix that.

Shipper:  
_ **Catherine Wright** _

D&L Transport

MC # 512088

OFFICE: 615-292-8000

FAX: 615-292-8030

CELL: 615-945-9294

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128/126 "2019-01-12T17:57:43Z")

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She shows delivered.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128/127 "2019-01-13T16:08:17Z")

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Showed up yesterday. One of the mechanics accepted it, time to get busy!

Could you reccomend settings for the chargery charger? Im driving my self crazy reading, thank you!

6s Gel  
Charge Current  
End Current  
End Voltage

28s LifePo4  
Charge Current  
End Current  
End Voltage

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128/128 "2019-01-13T18:24:41Z")

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They will take whatever you give them.  
For testing, I charge to 3.5v@ 10a ending at 1 amp. 10%  
12 or 14a are ok. Charger will limit to 1500w.

Gels, I have no idea.

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 2:22am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128/129 "2019-01-15T02:22:00Z")

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Not their final resting place, still need to do some fitting, but good for reference. I’ll clean up this chain soon so you can make it public.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128/130 "2019-01-21T15:24:05Z")

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Hey Dave, my friend has his Delta Q charger out and ready to be shipped for programming. Where should he send and how much do you charge? Thanks!

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128/131 "2019-01-21T16:18:38Z")

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David Bissen  
100 Falls st  
Hokah, Mn. 55941  
5078944754

$50 + shipping or return label

25 cells?  
#53 is 87.6v or 3.5v/cell.  
What year charger?  
dqcp may not be programmable. Needs a big black dot on label.  
dqct and up are ok.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128/132 "2019-01-21T16:21:49Z")

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Out of a 2014, you said a while back that it was fine. We are going with 28 cells.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128/133 "2019-01-21T16:29:21Z")

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Yes, dqd\* is fine.  
177 is 98.5 volts. 3.52v/cell

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128/134 "2019-01-21T16:31:13Z")

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I believe that should work just fine. Ill forward the info to him and he will have it out to you shortly.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128/135 "2019-01-23T16:57:45Z")

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Charger is on its way. I’ll send you $50 through PayPal today.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128/136 "2019-01-26T22:32:21Z")

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Looks like I nuked two resistors. Any thoughts?

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 11:07pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128/137 "2019-01-26T23:07:06Z")

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No idea. What happened?  
You didn’t change the balance current by chance?

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 11:12pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128/138 "2019-01-26T23:12:23Z")

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No, just plugged it in, left the bms settings as they came. Did a sanity check to make sure voltage went up from pin to pin, not that I skipped or missed one.

Plugged it all in, flipped main on the car and it released the smoke.

Do you have another one? I got the resisters off but it cooked some of the board. I don’t think I can fix it.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 11:56pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128/139 "2019-01-26T23:56:22Z")

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I may have one. Are you running load current through it?  
How many cells?

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 12:06am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem/15128/140 "2019-01-27T00:06:52Z")

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Load was not hooked up, charge only. The only thing that was not ordinary was B- went to the negative on the controller instead of battery one directly.

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