# 2014 Gem Issue grinding noise until warmed up **URL:** \ **Category:** GEM Forum\ **Created:** [June 14, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem-issue-grinding-noise-until-warmed-up/19045 "2020-06-14T19:48:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jerrod\_Ewing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jerrod_ewing/32/2425_2.png) [@Jerrod\_Ewing](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Jerrod_Ewing)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem-issue-grinding-noise-until-warmed-up/19045/1 "2020-06-14T19:48:16Z")
I have a 2014 Gem and can not figure out the problem I am having. I am having an issue when first turning it on and driving a mild grind noise until it gets up to speed and then the vehicle sounds fine. I assumed it was in the battery some place as it would have a major decrease in power until it got warmed up. After checking the batteries they are all good to go. Could I have a engine issue and has anyone ever heard of something similar? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem-issue-grinding-noise-until-warmed-up/19045/2 "2020-06-14T20:05:55Z")
Brakes maybe?.. ---
**Author:** ![Mad\_Davey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/mad_davey/32/6262_2.png) [@Mad\_Davey](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Mad_Davey)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem-issue-grinding-noise-until-warmed-up/19045/3 "2020-06-14T21:23:39Z")
I wonder if it’s the same issue I just had, thanks to Kinghappy for diagnosing. The rubber bushing between the motor and the gearbox, and add some Honda M-77 assembly lube on the spline when you put it back together. You pull the old rubber bushing out of the motor using a pic or O ring remover and push the new one in. For my 2007 is was part # 5414407, the 2014 appears to be the same model, but I can’t be sure so you may want to verify fit. I have a feeling this is something that has to be done frequently on these to prevent the growling noise the motor spline makes when the rubber and grease wear out. ---
**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 3:06am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem-issue-grinding-noise-until-warmed-up/19045/4 "2020-06-15T03:06:42Z")
That is probably your motor . Is the black motor that says advanced ? ---
**Author:** ![Jerrod\_Ewing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jerrod_ewing/32/2425_2.png) [@Jerrod\_Ewing](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Jerrod_Ewing)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 1:07pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem-issue-grinding-noise-until-warmed-up/19045/5 "2020-06-15T13:07:03Z")
Here is a pic of engine ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/5/50ca59720202e8b2bce6c5598250b11609b0111a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 2:25pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem-issue-grinding-noise-until-warmed-up/19045/6 "2020-06-15T14:25:25Z")
That’s the one . These are good motors but require maintenance every few years , especially if they sit unused . If your Gem sits for Months at a time these will eventually fail . Also if you live next to the ocean they don’t hold up well . You can have them serviced and they are good to go . When working they are good motors It is one of the motors I use myself . Fyi , half the 2013-2015 Gems I have seen have had them replaced with another motor . ---
**Author:** ![Jerrod\_Ewing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jerrod_ewing/32/2425_2.png) [@Jerrod\_Ewing](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Jerrod_Ewing)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 2:59pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem-issue-grinding-noise-until-warmed-up/19045/7 "2020-06-15T14:59:23Z")
So is it a service issue or replace issue? ---
**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 3:30pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem-issue-grinding-noise-until-warmed-up/19045/8 "2020-06-15T15:30:22Z")
Either or . kind of depends on options you have available . Where are you located ? ---
**Author:** ![Jerrod\_Ewing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jerrod_ewing/32/2425_2.png) [@Jerrod\_Ewing](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Jerrod_Ewing)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2020, 1:20pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem-issue-grinding-noise-until-warmed-up/19045/9 "2020-06-16T13:20:00Z")
Im in florida, orlando area. Im ok with replacing if it needs to be but its so strange cause yesterday it was running fine and then today its doing it again ---
**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2020, 1:34pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem-issue-grinding-noise-until-warmed-up/19045/10 "2020-06-16T13:34:39Z")
These motors have a history of something like this . Can’t be sure if it is your problem . Is it a grinding noise or maybe an arcing noise ? Does it happen on decel ? I’m in Naples but Rodney is about an hour from you ---
**Author:** ![Jerrod\_Ewing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jerrod_ewing/32/2425_2.png) [@Jerrod\_Ewing](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Jerrod_Ewing)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2020, 2:47pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem-issue-grinding-noise-until-warmed-up/19045/11 "2020-06-16T14:47:01Z")
it does not happen on the Deceleration, only on the initial acceleration and then once up to speed it stops. Once you stop again it will sometimes do it sometimes not. ---
**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem-issue-grinding-noise-until-warmed-up/19045/12 "2020-06-16T15:41:47Z")
That sounds like the motor . Contact oldhouseboater and take it to him . He should be able to do it in a few hours while you wait . Try not to ship if possible ---
**Author:** ![Jerrod\_Ewing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jerrod_ewing/32/2425_2.png) [@Jerrod\_Ewing](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Jerrod_Ewing)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem-issue-grinding-noise-until-warmed-up/19045/13 "2020-06-16T16:53:53Z")
Is it worth fixing or just replacing with a new motor? ---
**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem-issue-grinding-noise-until-warmed-up/19045/14 "2020-06-16T17:13:27Z")
I fixed mine . If you don’t want to have yours fixed I have a Ride4fun motor I can sell you and give you a credit for your current motor . ---
**Author:** ![Jerrod\_Ewing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jerrod_ewing/32/2425_2.png) [@Jerrod\_Ewing](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Jerrod_Ewing)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2014-gem-issue-grinding-noise-until-warmed-up/19045/15 "2020-06-16T18:14:51Z")
Does it have the speed control piece as well that’s what I was looking at for the 899 If its new and has the whole package I would totally be in