# 2013 GEM elxd problems **URL:** \ **Category:** GEM Forum\ **Created:** [January 3, 2017, 11:43pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-elxd-problems/11876 "2017-01-03T23:43:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Super748](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Super748](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Super748)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 11:43pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-elxd-problems/11876/1 "2017-01-03T23:43:28Z")
Has new batteries, QuiQ charger red indicator flashing 6 times (internal charger fault), turtle indicator flashing. Will a new charger @ $1200 correct my issues? ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Houseboater](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/old_houseboater/32/544_2.png) [@Old\_Houseboater](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Old_Houseboater)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 12:41am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-elxd-problems/11876/2 "2017-01-04T00:41:14Z")
Same type batteries as original? Did you do any diagnostics? Did this happen when you changed batteries. Why did you change the batteries the cart is only 3 years old… A chronology of fault items in order of time might give us more to work with ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 6:19am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-elxd-problems/11876/3 "2017-01-04T06:19:47Z")
Fault can be as simple as fuse. Check for 72v on red wire from B+,and green wire. Internal fuse between red and green. ---
**Author:** ![Super748](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Super748](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Super748)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-elxd-problems/11876/4 "2017-01-04T17:41:40Z")
Hi Inwo, Both have 72v. The QuiQ charger red indicator flashes 6 times. After plugged in scrolls through the charger lights test then the 120 v in stays lit and then shortly after the red indicator comes on flashing 6 times. On the display the turtle indicator remains flashing. The indicator never lights to show I’m plugged in even though it is. This condition existed prior to me changing all 9 batteries. This is used on a college campus and they ran the batteries dead several times because they never bothered to plug it in routinely after each use. This leads me to a faulty charger, but at $1300 I wanted to be certain. Any thoughts? Thanks. Tom ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 6:49pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-elxd-problems/11876/5 "2017-01-04T18:49:12Z")
Sounds like the fuse. Check for B+ on green wire when connected to battery. ---
**Author:** ![Super748](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Super748](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Super748)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-elxd-problems/11876/6 "2017-01-04T20:44:15Z")
Hi Inwo, I checked the green wire and it has battery voltage. I checked all visible fuses and they appear fine. Thanks. Tom ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-elxd-problems/11876/7 "2017-01-04T21:51:45Z")
That’s it for simple fixes. Rodney can have it rebuilt with warranty. For $100-$150 I can possible repair it by replacing bad parts. No charge if I can’t. You would be out shipping both ways. Dave ---
**Author:** ![ATXGem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@ATXGem](https://community.electricforum.com/u/ATXGem)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-elxd-problems/11876/8 "2017-01-05T20:26:19Z")
I had the 6 flashers and the dreaded turtle of death on my 2010 e4. I contacted flight systems in Carlisle, PA and they rebuilt my old charger for a couple hundred bucks. ---
**Author:** ![Super748](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Super748](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Super748)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-elxd-problems/11876/9 "2017-01-06T17:30:30Z")
Thanks ATXGem. I shipped my charger there and it should arrive today. Hoping for the same result when I get it back. Tom ---
**Author:** ![ATXGem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@ATXGem](https://community.electricforum.com/u/ATXGem)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-elxd-problems/11876/10 "2017-01-06T17:54:58Z")
great, I could not have been happier with flight systems. they were friendly, easy to reach, and did exactly what they said they would for the price they quoted, on time.