# 2013 Gem E2 error 64 Please Help **URL:** \ **Category:** GEM Forum\ **Created:** [January 15, 2026, 4:24am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102 "2026-01-15T04:24:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![luanagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/47e85d/32.png) [@luanagos](https://community.electricforum.com/u/luanagos)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2026, 10:00pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102/42 "2026-02-01T22:00:09Z")
Yes, I tested it with the wire still attached to the relay. When I touched the small orange wire to the negative on the motor controller, I get 71.5 When I touch the small black wire next to the small orange wire to the positive side , I get 68.5 And yes, I touched both sides of the connector and they’re both the same ---
**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2026, 10:12pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102/43 "2026-02-01T22:12:14Z")
Your second test (Black coil wire to Pos) is somewhat irrelevant. Just to be sure **What I think I am seeing** , Remove that black wire from the relay and probe the flag that it came from. (Orange wire still connected) You should see close to PackV. on the flag where the black wire normally lives. === Q- As you are removing, playing around (disconnecting/reconnecting) Is this relay clacking/clunking/operating? ---
**Author:** ![luanagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/47e85d/32.png) [@luanagos](https://community.electricforum.com/u/luanagos)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2026, 10:25pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102/44 "2026-02-01T22:25:45Z")
![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/3X/9/4/942a0dc25c26ade1158184d48ffbc18f3c5bf4eb.jpeg) From the black/green wire that is disconnected i get 68.5v to positive on motor controller From the terminals it self o get nothing When I rep plug it in, I hear zero noises ---
**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2026, 10:32pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102/45 "2026-02-01T22:32:01Z")
To me- It sure looks like this relay is bad. Do you have any others part cars you can pull one from? ---
**Author:** ![luanagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/47e85d/32.png) [@luanagos](https://community.electricforum.com/u/luanagos)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2026, 10:52pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102/46 "2026-02-01T22:52:59Z")
No, I’m not a car guy. Is there anyway I can bypass the relay? ---
**Author:** ![luanagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/47e85d/32.png) [@luanagos](https://community.electricforum.com/u/luanagos)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2026, 11:47pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102/48 "2026-02-01T23:47:51Z")
I downloaded the app. The battery has a Bluetooth connection. ![IMG_1210](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/3X/3/e/3ebc3073095cfbda8566ba6c5e365368d8279c02.png) ---
**Author:** ![luanagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/47e85d/32.png) [@luanagos](https://community.electricforum.com/u/luanagos)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2026, 11:53pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102/49 "2026-02-01T23:53:07Z")
![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/3X/f/f/ff7388e9fd1ad34ae9bd9a13b4aa3bd62a18c876.jpeg)Now back at error 57 ---
**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 12:19am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102/50 "2026-02-02T00:19:09Z")
-57 ??? This still points to that relay. Does it try and slap closed when you press on the pedal a bit? ---
**Author:** ![luanagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/47e85d/32.png) [@luanagos](https://community.electricforum.com/u/luanagos)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 12:30am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102/51 "2026-02-02T00:30:15Z")
No i dont hear nothing ---
**Author:** ![luanagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/47e85d/32.png) [@luanagos](https://community.electricforum.com/u/luanagos)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 12:31am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102/52 "2026-02-02T00:31:02Z")
So if there’s no way to bypass, I guess I have to buy another relay. Do you have any specific one you’d recommend? ---
**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 12:59am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102/53 "2026-02-02T00:59:02Z")
A -64 is a controller safety check and cannot be bypassed. if it is truly gone(possibly due to cleaning those terminals) and now -57 is present then sometimes this can be dodged (as a test only by jumping the two big terminals on the relay. hook onto it with a big set of jumper cables when Key is on and see if the -57 clears. press the pedal slightly to see if - - any other codes pop up - the -64 returns - or the car moves This is test to see if you are chasing the correct tail. If car moves - then go find another Main Contactor/relay. ---
**Author:** ![luanagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/47e85d/32.png) [@luanagos](https://community.electricforum.com/u/luanagos)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 1:26am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102/54 "2026-02-02T01:26:05Z")
Error code 64 came back ---
**Author:** ![Gem\_e2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/gem_e2/32/1849_2.png) [@Gem\_e2](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Gem_e2)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 6:58pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102/55 "2026-02-02T18:58:50Z")
Hi this new type small solenoid are not good and go bad,can you do a ohm test and see if coil are good ? ---
**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102/56 "2026-02-02T19:15:21Z")
This was the reason I had him testing for PackV on one side, and looking for it on the other. In this case, there was nothing. ---
**Author:** ![luanagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/47e85d/32.png) [@luanagos](https://community.electricforum.com/u/luanagos)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 8:38pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102/57 "2026-02-02T20:38:08Z")
![IMG_1217](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/3X/f/e/fe0f9fae3507a469fed762888b44914a1d2d9cd9.jpeg)If i buy this would this work? ---
**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 8:53pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102/58 "2026-02-02T20:53:37Z")
No. That looks like A 48V. You need at least 72v. ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 6:43pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102/59 "2026-02-03T18:43:43Z")
I would wait for @AssyRequired before spending good money for bad. IMO ---
**Author:** ![luanagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/47e85d/32.png) [@luanagos](https://community.electricforum.com/u/luanagos)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 9:17pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102/60 "2026-02-03T21:17:41Z")
So what should i do? Get a 72v one? ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2026, 12:38am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102/61 "2026-02-04T00:38:43Z")
I was waiting for Byron to confirm. But yes, if you measure voltage on one side of coil and none on other side, then coil is open and needs to be replaced with a 72v contactor. ---
**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2026, 1:02am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102/62 "2026-02-04T01:02:38Z")
> [@luanagos](#): > > So what should i do? Get a 72v one A new Gem. One that actually works [Previous page](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102.md?page=2) [Next page](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2013-gem-e2-error-64-please-help/30102.md?page=4)