# 2007 Gem Car Turtle mode issues

**URL:** <https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652>\
**Category:** GEM Forum\
**Created:** [May 1, 2018, 5:25pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652 "2018-05-01T17:25:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 5:15am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/21 "2024-06-11T05:15:26Z")

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Michel aka @LithiumGods one piece, drop in. Easiest of all battery swaps. $2750

2 are boxed ready to ship from mn.  
Pick up in Fl. Or Ca.

100s sold, about 30 miles range.  
 ![Sdi samsung 94ah display](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/a/aa66fffaac02ef41722735cc127f26f07b091b8b.jpeg)  
 ![received_341440581462453](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/3/3f8eccbd773c1e03681c51fdc8e39b5accb219c1.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 6:13am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/22 "2024-06-11T06:13:39Z")

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About same price as a new a new set of gels. Minimum 30 mile range, but most get 35-40. Works with factory components, including dash gauge. Comes with Bluetooth phone app. Charge for winter, turn off battery and they can sit for years no problem.

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**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 8:13am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/23 "2024-06-11T08:13:33Z")

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7 years is great for gels. Theyve lived a good life. Time to move on.

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**Author:** ![smitty9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@smitty9](https://community.electricforum.com/u/smitty9)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 11:23am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/24 "2024-06-11T11:23:01Z")

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Which lithium battery are you referring to?  
Thanks!

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**Author:** ![smitty9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@smitty9](https://community.electricforum.com/u/smitty9)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 11:24am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/25 "2024-06-11T11:24:48Z")

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Looks like you would need new cables. Yes?  
Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/26 "2024-06-11T14:21:13Z")

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2007, no. Oem cables work fine. Just connect + and -.

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**Author:** ![smitty9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@smitty9](https://community.electricforum.com/u/smitty9)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 10:31pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/27 "2024-06-11T22:31:12Z")

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Excellent. Do you have the batteries for sale or should I reach out to someone else? Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 11:39pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/28 "2024-06-11T23:39:41Z")

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I have them in Mn. ready to ship, but payment goes to @LithiumGods Lithiumgods

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**Author:** ![smitty9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@smitty9](https://community.electricforum.com/u/smitty9)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 1:31am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/29 "2024-06-12T01:31:05Z")

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Do you have a close up picture of the battery? What payment method do you prefer?  
Thanks!

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**Author:** ![LithiumGods](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/lithiumgods/32/672_2.png) [@LithiumGods](https://community.electricforum.com/u/LithiumGods)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 6:38am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/30 "2024-06-12T06:38:13Z")

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I take zelle, Venmo, and PayPal. Email directly , I’m in Europe and it’s easier. [wmgceo@gmail.com](mailto:wmgceo@gmail.com). Mike

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 3:59pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/31 "2024-06-12T15:59:11Z")

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![Sdi-22 connections](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/1/144d44dfe2b3410b853e7a8d4f712b67932aae34.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![smitty9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@smitty9](https://community.electricforum.com/u/smitty9)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/32 "2024-06-12T19:22:27Z")

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These batteries look much bigger than what I have currently. The battery cables look quite small in comparison to what I currently have. I’m assuming those are for demonstration purposes only. I’m assuming the same number of lithium batteries are required. Total cost is?

 ![IMG_5087](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/e/e93a8ddcebd353fcd9eaf37c93e8638ea39ab8e4.jpeg)

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/33 "2024-06-12T19:34:45Z")

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Wires are just going to a voltmeter.  
Only one battery is needed.  
Battery is what you need for a Gem. 100s sold.  
$2750

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**Author:** ![smitty9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@smitty9](https://community.electricforum.com/u/smitty9)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 10:03pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/34 "2024-06-12T22:03:08Z")

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Got it. Just use the main power and negative cables. I’m out of the country starting this Friday until next Saturday. I’ll reconnect with you then. Thanks much!

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**Author:** ![smitty9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@smitty9](https://community.electricforum.com/u/smitty9)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 10:04pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/35 "2024-06-12T22:04:00Z")

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Got a cell number in case of any issues on the conversion? Thanks!

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**Author:** ![smitty9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@smitty9](https://community.electricforum.com/u/smitty9)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 11:29am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/36 "2024-06-13T11:29:31Z")

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What’s the little black box on top of the battery?  
Thanks!

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**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 1:41pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/37 "2024-06-13T13:41:23Z")

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![whats-in-the-box](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/9/96d0d72d0b51a8e29041beeea89096c8f44b25cb.jpeg)

(Its the bms.)

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**Author:** ![smitty9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@smitty9](https://community.electricforum.com/u/smitty9)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/38 "2024-06-13T13:57:13Z")

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Got it. Thanks for the quick response all!

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**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 4:38pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/39 "2024-06-13T16:38:54Z")

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Hey smitty,

Note that this install does require a little fab skills, some minor tooling, and heavy lifting.

The single piece SDI22 battery weighs about 120 lbs and the target location is under the back seat center section and rearward.

You will need to remove whatever you have on the back of your car (Mini stakebed and/or spat/fender assembly) to remove the old batteries and prepare the location to slide the new one in.

It works out best if a deck is made to span the area.  
Make sure this is something you can do.

Where are you located?

 ![Batt Deck1](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/d/d9b39bd0d8ed5d5f11468d354161570f1b10915f.jpeg)

 ![Batt Deck2](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/2/281bcddb1e389af2727adac8587ab655e1b08097.jpeg)

 ![Batt On deck](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/e/e3aa700f471f315a665e11dacdd94128f6cbd76d.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![smitty9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@smitty9](https://community.electricforum.com/u/smitty9)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 9:35pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/40 "2024-06-13T21:35:39Z")

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I’m located in Indiana. If I have instructions, I’m all in and capable.  
Thank!

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