# 2007 Gem Car Turtle mode issues **URL:** \ **Category:** GEM Forum\ **Created:** [May 1, 2018, 5:25pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652 "2018-05-01T17:25:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![smitty9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@smitty9](https://community.electricforum.com/u/smitty9)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 5:25pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/1 "2018-05-01T17:25:18Z")
I have a 2007 Gem Car E4 I Purchased from a car dealer. They installed new gel batteries before I purchased and put it up for sale. I trailer-ed it home and put a full charge on the batteries. I drove it less than 2 miles and the car goes into turtle mode and shows the red bar only. Limped it home and charged again as the yellow and then green bars showed charging progress. Took it out again and same thing happened. I bought for aging parents and really need some help getting this thing working right. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/2 "2018-05-01T19:41:57Z")
Did charger finish cycle? Watch the leads on charger when first powered. Should blink a code. Ie 1 blink 3 blink repeat. If charge does not complete it will blink an error code. Don’t trust the dealer. With a voltmeter you can check his work. ---
**Author:** ![smitty9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@smitty9](https://community.electricforum.com/u/smitty9)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 12:40pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/3 "2018-05-02T12:40:48Z")
Charger finished cycle. Didn’t check charger as battery indicator shows fully charged. I’ll plug back in and observe full charge, then I’ll turn the key on and observe the charger codes tonight. Also want to install a stereo as well. Ideas on where to connect the ACC and B+ leads from the stereo? I’m thinking best to add a small 12V motorcycle battery for the stereo. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![smitty9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@smitty9](https://community.electricforum.com/u/smitty9)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/4 "2018-06-19T15:54:27Z")
It was only loose battery cables. ---
**Author:** ![smitty9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@smitty9](https://community.electricforum.com/u/smitty9)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/5 "2023-05-09T14:02:36Z")
Getting back to the stereo install due to other projects. Can you send or draw me a simple schematic to install a stereo to this 2007 Gem? I know there is a 10 amp fuse for a radio. Thanks much! ---
**Author:** ![Banger978](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Banger978](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Banger978)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/6 "2023-05-22T20:58:02Z")
Here is the installation instructions I wrote when I worked at GEM back in early 2000’s > **[1010-00030.pdf](https://www.dropbox.com/s/k3l3dciymtsv2v8/1010-00030.pdf?dl=0)** ---
**Author:** ![Gem\_e2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/gem_e2/32/1849_2.png) [@Gem\_e2](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Gem_e2)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/7 "2023-05-23T16:34:00Z")
Thanks Banger and welcome to forum ---
**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/8 "2023-05-23T16:37:24Z")
@Banger978 - Neat! You must have an interesting library. How limited are you in sharing these things? ---
**Author:** ![Banger978](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Banger978](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Banger978)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2023, 5:07am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/9 "2023-09-29T05:07:10Z")
I can share everything I have. Here are some more. > **[GEM](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/o4exbjcyq4h7l8xw37olr/h?rlkey=eulqx25a2mwlhapdz0mdd3giv&dl=0)** > > Shared with Dropbox I also have artwork for decals, I have some for sale here… > **[GEM Car Parts Decal / Sticker Model E825 For Side Panel 1999-2004 | eBay](https://www.ebay.com/itm/275934967732)** > > Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for GEM Car Parts Decal / Sticker Model E825 For Side Panel 1999-2004 at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products! > **[Gem Car Parts E825 Instrument Pod Decals Plus Master Disconnect Switch Decal ...](https://www.ebay.com/itm/275790615230?hash=item403666d2be:g:O4UAAOSw9fxkN44Q)** > > Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Gem Car Parts E825 Instrument Pod Decals Plus Master Disconnect Switch Decal at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products! > **[Gem Car Parts - Domed Decal / Sticker For Steering Wheel 1999 - 2016 | eBay](https://www.ebay.com/itm/275810374425?hash=item4037945319:g:Ox4AAOSwQllkQdOW)** > > Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Gem Car Parts - Domed Decal / Sticker For Steering Wheel 1999 - 2016 at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products! > **[Gem Car Side Panel Decal / Sticker e2, e4, eS, & eL 2005-2007 | eBay](https://www.ebay.com/itm/275802500035?hash=item40371c2bc3:g:FasAAOSwJhRkPryb)** > > Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Gem Car Side Panel Decal / Sticker e2, e4, eS, & eL 2005-2007 at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products! > **[GEM / Polaris New Hard Door Style Decals (Set of 2) | eBay](https://www.ebay.com/itm/276029208751?hash=item40449f78af:g:AKwAAOSwss1k9Mfq)** > > Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for GEM / Polaris New Hard Door Style Decals (Set of 2) at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products! ---
**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2023, 7:11am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/10 "2023-09-29T07:11:30Z")
> [@Banger978](#): > > I can share everything I have. > Here are some more. > > [Dropbox - GEM - Simplify your life](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/o4exbjcyq4h7l8xw37olr/h?rlkey=eulqx25a2mwlhapdz0mdd3giv&dl=0) WOW! That directory is a veritable gold mine of info… Thank you! The clean digital service manual w/ legible, complete electrical schematics is worth the price of admission alone. This is like the next best thing to ever happen to the 99-04 years. Right after the invention of the hydrogen peroxide - silver rocket motor. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/11 "2023-09-29T14:58:24Z")
Awesome - Thanks Bangar! Yes, I have been looking for a clean copy of the schematic for a while. I was thinking about redrawing that whole thing, but also incorporate the wiring update with the DC Converter and the PWB removed. This saves me a TON of work. It’s going to take a while to explore all of the other goodies in your library. ---
**Author:** ![Sharkba8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@Sharkba8](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Sharkba8)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 1:00pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/12 "2023-10-09T13:00:46Z")
I changed 2 batteries on my 2008 Gem and now all of the dash lights are blinking. Wrench light temp light turtle light and the forward / reverse light. The car still runs good but the lights are flashing. I’ve changed 2 other batteries earlier and all went well. I’m not sure what caused the problem this time. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Barry ---
**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 5:07pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/13 "2023-10-09T17:07:44Z")
> I changed 2 batteries on my 2008 Gem and now all of the dash lights are blinking. Good Lord! Are you still dealing with that issue? Or did it happen again? You posted this same issue back in Nov 2020. Tip: Don’t tack on to someone else’s thread that is not related to your issue. Tap on the “c” key to create a new topic. Clear out all the misc text in the body of the editor and change the name of the subject to reflect your issue. ---
**Author:** ![Sharkba8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@Sharkba8](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Sharkba8)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 3:38pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/14 "2023-10-10T15:38:41Z")
> [@AssyRequired](#): > > I changed 2 batteries on my 2008 Gem and now all of the dash lights are blinking Sorry for tacking on to someone else post. I couldn’t figure out how to create a new post. And yes I never got the problem resolved. Never got an answer from anyone, ---
**Author:** ![Garthhh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/garthhh/32/13053_2.png) [@Garthhh](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Garthhh)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 4:01pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/15 "2023-10-10T16:01:49Z")
Push the c key & a new post window will popup ---
**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 1:59am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/16 "2023-10-11T01:59:54Z")
Ccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc Crap. That didnt work ---
**Author:** ![Banger978](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Banger978](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Banger978)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2023, 5:29pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/17 "2023-11-06T17:29:26Z")
Glad I could help. If I find more, I will post them. ---
**Author:** ![smitty9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@smitty9](https://community.electricforum.com/u/smitty9)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 7:42pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/18 "2024-06-10T19:42:44Z")
How long should a typical Duracell Procell Gel battery last in a gem car? These were new when I bought the GEM used. They are 97AH. I always fully charge the batteries and turn the power off at the fuse block when I store for the winter. I usually have no problem except this year. Turned on key and it showed 3/4 charge but would not run. Dash was clicking fast for a few seconds and then went blank. Car beeped when I released the brake at first, now that isn’t working, and batteries won’t take a charge. My guess is it’s time to replace batteries. Looking for a better battery recommendation. Help and Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 1:41am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/19 "2024-06-11T01:41:07Z")
> [@smitty9](#): > > How long should a typical Duracell Procell Gel battery last in a gem car? These were new when I bought the GEM used. They are 97AH. I always fully charge the batteries and turn the power off at the fuse block when I store for the winter. I usually have no problem except this year. Nowhere in this did you mention how many years ago you bought the gem / how old the batteries were. 97ah gel is a bit on the small side, if you dont need to go far on it, its ok. But if you do, you’ll likely be dragging the batteries down a bit too far and damaging them. Better battery? Lithium. ---
**Author:** ![smitty9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@smitty9](https://community.electricforum.com/u/smitty9)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 3:05am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652/20 "2024-06-11T03:05:49Z")
I believe the batteries are 7 years old. Bought the gem 7 years ago. What part # are the lithium batteries you recommend? Thanks! [Next page](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2007-gem-car-turtle-mode-issues/13652.md?page=2)