# 2002 Gem died, Bad Motor? **URL:** \ **Category:** GEM Forum\ **Created:** [July 9, 2022, 11:43pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2002-gem-died-bad-motor/24647 "2022-07-09T23:43:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![1953Richie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/aeb1de/32.png) [@1953Richie](https://community.electricforum.com/u/1953Richie)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 2:32pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2002-gem-died-bad-motor/24647/43 "2022-07-19T14:32:53Z")
Hi Nato, I also have a 02 Gem 4 seater. Can you tell me how you went about the recall on the converter. I not sure the one I have has had the recall done to it. Thanks Richard ---
**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 3:18pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2002-gem-died-bad-motor/24647/44 "2022-07-19T15:18:20Z")
Next time you are under your dash look over to the pass side for a bunch of wires in a collection point. If they all go to a pc board or a silver box then you have the old wiring. The silver box is sometimes considered an update by some dealers but it really isn’t. If you have the update you will have a relay, a square solid state timer and a black finned box marked Surepower. ---
**Author:** ![1953Richie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/aeb1de/32.png) [@1953Richie](https://community.electricforum.com/u/1953Richie)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 3:36pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2002-gem-died-bad-motor/24647/45 "2022-07-19T15:36:04Z")
Thanks AssyRequired. I’ll look tonight once I get back home. Regards Richard ---
**Author:** ![jonbbrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@jonbbrew](https://community.electricforum.com/u/jonbbrew)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 4:15pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2002-gem-died-bad-motor/24647/46 "2022-07-19T16:15:26Z")
Anyone have a picture(s) of it both ways to compare? ---
**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 6:21pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2002-gem-died-bad-motor/24647/47 "2022-07-19T18:21:27Z")
I can post when I get back to my desk ---
**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2002-gem-died-bad-motor/24647/48 "2022-07-19T21:30:10Z")
Example - OpenDC converter ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/7/7b9408d669c7952a8881b0f83420552efb317535.jpg) PWB - Potted version ![L-11-05-IMG_20201008_140816](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/0/071eb88e0770c107aa2b909699597fa54b759cc5.jpeg) Wiring update Installed SurePower DC Converter ![SurePower1](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/f/f294c0c711d80b555660090bdc6e44ee14483d25.jpeg) You will also have one of these hanging around. ![TDR actual wires](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/6/65f22fa6854cf0f37c515d05cfaea1cb22d32b6b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Nato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@Nato](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Nato)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 10:53pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2002-gem-died-bad-motor/24647/49 "2022-07-19T22:53:50Z")
I got mine replaced last year, no charge, by a local cart shop. I went on Polaris’ website typed my VIN in and they gave me a list of local shop authorized to do the work. I checked their site now and it looks like vehicles over 15 years old you have to call. ---
**Author:** ![MikeKC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 11:04pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2002-gem-died-bad-motor/24647/50 "2022-07-19T23:04:49Z")
Most DC/DC recalls that have not been done by now, have been falsely claimed. People/dealers have entered the VIN as being in for recall but the recall was never done. Don’t know - sell the parts? Not sure of the reason why. Some like @Nato get a lucky one! ---
**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2002-gem-died-bad-motor/24647/51 "2022-07-20T00:26:11Z")
Also run the VIN through NTSB. > **[Recalls | NHTSA](https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls)** > > Use our VIN lookup tool to check for recalls on your car, or search by make and model. Also, get recall information on car seats, tires and equipment. Some VINs will show recall applied when it’s was not due to shady shops. If it’s not showing as applied, you might have to hit a few dealers to find one that will do it, but it is still a valid recall. BTW, there are 3 different recalls on the 00-04 gems. * * * Jeez… I wrote that at 1130-ish. Now it posted. I gotta get a different cell provider… Spotty coverage at the refinery… ---
**Author:** ![dougl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b19c9b/32.png) [@dougl](https://community.electricforum.com/u/dougl)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2022, 1:41am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2002-gem-died-bad-motor/24647/52 "2022-07-20T01:41:03Z")
> [@JarJarJava](#): > > Jeez… I wrote that at 1130-ish. Now it posted. I gotta get a different cell provider… Spotty coverage at the refinery… How’s the new job going? Blow anything up lately? ---
**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2022, 3:47am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2002-gem-died-bad-motor/24647/53 "2022-07-20T03:47:07Z")
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