# 2000 GEM E825 Key Switch **URL:** \ **Category:** GEM Forum\ **Created:** [May 4, 2022, 5:57pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140 "2022-05-04T17:57:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dante602](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/dante602/32/8351_2.png) [@dante602](https://community.electricforum.com/u/dante602)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 5:57pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140/1 "2022-05-04T17:57:33Z")
Does anyone have a picture of the keyswitch wiring setup for a 2000 E825? I looked at all the other threads about this topic but couldn’t find one with a properly installed and wired keyswitch. My keyswitch was disconnected and I didn’t have a reference picture to bring it back to stock. Thank you!! ![IMG-8952](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/2/2a4fe100fd0185340c037b4726aaefa784fd8a76.jpeg) ![IMG-8953](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/electricforum/original/2X/8/8327b0ea07979cc00515f4a76285415f0717301b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140/2 "2022-05-04T18:56:32Z")
One wire goes to the center post, the other to one of the outer posts. You have to use a DVM and flip the key forward to see which post you connect to to complete the circuit. The other outer post is not used. ---
**Author:** ![dante602](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/dante602/32/8351_2.png) [@dante602](https://community.electricforum.com/u/dante602)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140/3 "2022-05-04T19:19:45Z")
I’m going to give that a try, thank you! ---
**Author:** ![MikeKC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140/4 "2022-05-04T20:59:18Z")
Be aware that I think that year runs battery voltage thru the switch at key “on”. 72v. ---
**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 9:38pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140/5 "2022-05-04T21:38:35Z")
You are correct Mike. ---
**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140/6 "2022-05-04T23:21:51Z")
It even gets more confusing. The way I read it- In unaltered form- that wire is B- After recall performed- that wire is +12v. 2005 and up- that wire is B+. ---
**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 11:27pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140/7 "2022-05-04T23:27:15Z")
Oh, my bad forgot about that ---
**Author:** ![MikeKC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140/8 "2022-05-05T01:06:46Z")
> [@AssyRequired](#): > > It even gets more confusing. > The way I read it- > In unaltered form- that wire is B- > After recall performed- that wire is +12v. > 2005 and up- that wire is B+. Really? I did not know that. Good information. I found out the hard way, we tried to put a RFID start switch in a 2002 and hit a 12v circuit with 72v… We let the smoke out 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 1:08am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140/9 "2022-05-05T01:08:41Z")
RFID start switch? Why the remote start? Let the electric motor warm up? /poke had to. ---
**Author:** ![MikeKC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 1:36am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140/10 "2022-05-05T01:36:44Z")
LOL - I guess I should correct that - RFDI proximity key - We wanted to be able to just walk up jump in and hit the pedal. Have the car shutoff when we walked away. ---
**Author:** ![djgabriel2004](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/djgabriel2004/32/12304_2.png) [@djgabriel2004](https://community.electricforum.com/u/djgabriel2004)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 7:06am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140/11 "2022-05-05T07:06:50Z")
Which one did you use @MikeKC ? Link? ---
**Author:** ![MikeKC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 1:55pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140/12 "2022-05-05T13:55:51Z")
Not sure of the exact one, was like four years ago but it was a lot like this one. > **[Car Ignition Switch 12V RFID Engine Start Push Button Keyless Entry Starter Kit...](https://www.ebay.com/itm/293112076840?_trkparms=ispr=1&hash=item443ed75a28:g:7O8AAOSwIJZc92GQ&amdata=enc:AQAGAAAA4OhKY6UNgKej52Vg9OeVqq6Ax84SfHQPMPqiTyrDG6MzeKF4XOj7pu0cIIkNDmsqf5%2F%2FRI9EuAEY3b2EDvAItSjOtvqMJ17hYT28gVTEj9YpvsWCWiwnZ1taQlHnpeO4EdImn1LyPeWx6%2BL0fA%2B7QD3vX9H0nNAbvLKqJFvisDJ0DyO7yAEH9sXgILCf7qd7tRc17zujO1RH4zJNc3YzygpiF9IbUlh6D13JI2VFojootoCeaPVuZKX05vgfam%2Fp3iqK6x6rpqQQvOzPwPFJ%2Fuv1WkG9Ly%2Bez3iBPnfngChV%7Ctkp:BFBMuoaDyJJg)** > > Universal fit for most cars with DC 12V voltage. Product Specification: Type Anti-Theft Device Two-Way Material ABS Voltage DC 12V Current 8mA Fitment Only for DC 12V models Package Includes: 1x Car Engine Push Starter Host 1x Push Start Stop Button... ---
**Author:** ![dante602](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/dante602/32/8351_2.png) [@dante602](https://community.electricforum.com/u/dante602)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140/13 "2022-05-05T17:18:52Z")
So does would this info change the suggestion to use a DVM and cycling the key to see which posts are the correct ones? ---
**Author:** ![JarJarJava](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/jarjarjava/32/15158_2.png) [@JarJarJava](https://community.electricforum.com/u/JarJarJava)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 5:31pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140/14 "2022-05-05T17:31:21Z")
Use the DVM in continuity mode, you do it with the power off and the switch out like you have it. Clip on the center pin and turn the key “forward” and see which other pin you get continuity through. I forget which way the Medico lock works, if it’s the pin in the direction of twist or the opposite. ---
**Author:** ![dante602](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/dante602/32/8351_2.png) [@dante602](https://community.electricforum.com/u/dante602)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140/15 "2022-05-06T23:42:17Z")
Thank you for that advice. I did as you said and connected my DVM in continuity mode and found the two prongs that completed the circuit. My issue is that when I reconnect my wires I get no response from my cart. 1. I am running a newly refurbished Zivan NG1 2. I am using 6x brand new Group 31 Batteries ([https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/marine/super-start-marine-battery-group-size-31/ssbb/31dcmj?q=31DCMJ&pos=0](https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/marine/super-start-marine-battery-group-size-31/ssbb/31dcmj?q=31DCMJ&pos=0)) Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can test next to see why I am not getting power to the switch?? I feel like this is my last step in this long process, thank you all so much for the help! ---
**Author:** ![MikeKC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MikeKC](https://community.electricforum.com/u/MikeKC)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2022, 11:55pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140/16 "2022-05-06T23:55:32Z")
Standard question: Have you had the recall done on the DC/DC converter? Sounds like you have no 12v systems. If you don’t know what I am talking about search the forum for “recall” “dc/dc converter” - start reading 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dante602](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/dante602/32/8351_2.png) [@dante602](https://community.electricforum.com/u/dante602)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 4:34am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140/17 "2022-05-07T04:34:55Z")
Oh boy, I am going to guess that the recall hasn’t been done. No 12V would make a lot of sense. I individually measured each battery and they were all 12V+. They are brand new so I would be hesitant to think it’s the batteries themselves. I did a search on the topic and definitely learned a few things. If my recall hasn’t been done, would a dealer still do that or should I look for a new DC converter on my own? I was losing my mind with this issue, thank you for helping me at least figure out a possible cause. ---
**Author:** ![Erniea15](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/erniea15/32/10887_2.png) [@Erniea15](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Erniea15)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 4:45am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140/18 "2022-05-07T04:45:03Z")
I’d definitely start with the dealer. I had the recall applied 3 years ago and it wasn’t an issue. I thought I read on one of the posts that they weren’t doing them anymore… but I have a feeling that answer changes dealer to dealer so it can’t hurt to ask. ---
**Author:** ![dante602](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/dante602/32/8351_2.png) [@dante602](https://community.electricforum.com/u/dante602)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 4:54am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140/19 "2022-05-07T04:54:45Z")
I’ll definitely look into that… My Zivan is flashing Red without Audible now. When I look that up it alludes to a DC issue. Seems like it’s almost a certain now that it’s the DC converter. I’ll do a VIN check and see what I find. Thank you for the help. ---
**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 5:00am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140/20 "2022-05-07T05:00:39Z")
> Seems like it’s almost a certain now that it’s the DC converter Hmmm… could be, but with a fresh set of batteries and your charger still won’t start I’d look at something might be hooked up wrong. Is your battery switch turned on? [Next page](https://community.electricforum.com/t/2000-gem-e825-key-switch/24140.md?page=2)